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Russia - Northern Fleet heading to Venezuela for naval maneuvers in the Caribbean
Interfax.ru via translation ^ | September 22, 2008

Posted on 09/22/2008 3:33:32 AM PDT by HAL9000

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1 posted on 09/22/2008 3:33:33 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
The military stressed that this action was not politically motivated.

Ha!

2 posted on 09/22/2008 3:35:41 AM PDT by library user
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To: HAL9000
The Russian fleet has moved out to Syria and the Caribbean Sea. Iran is very close to assembling an atomic device. Pakistan is now protecting AQ and allowing it to reconstitute in the north west. The governments of Israel and the US are about to change.

I see some storm clouds forming.

3 posted on 09/22/2008 3:40:32 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (I would spend more time on FR but I have to make sure my tires are inflated.)
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To: library user

And so the cold war resumes. It’s a tragedy that the social engineers in our political system, with their accomplices in the media and academia, have weakened us economically such that our adversaries are emboldened.


4 posted on 09/22/2008 3:41:14 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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He recalled that in Soviet times a year to 70 thousand Soviet military seamen ashore in foreign ports around the globe

Yeah, one port in North Yemen and one port in South Yemen. They had to anchor-out in Med because nobody wanted them.
5 posted on 09/22/2008 3:53:35 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: HAL9000

Perhaps they’re anticipating Cuba reverting to it’s pre-Castro American friendship once the old man is dead and are seeking an alternative base.


6 posted on 09/22/2008 3:54:25 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
The Russian fleet has moved out to Syria and the Caribbean Sea. Iran is very close to assembling an atomic device. Pakistan is now protecting AQ and allowing it to reconstitute in the north west. The governments of Israel and the US are about to change.

Don't worry. Obama is about to disarm all of it with the power of his rhetoric and his "aggressive personal diplomacy." Right after he heals the land and causes the waters to recede.

7 posted on 09/22/2008 3:56:34 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (You can put lipstick on a donkey, but it's still just a jackass.)
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To: HAL9000

Bush’s fault...


8 posted on 09/22/2008 4:00:50 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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no doubt, to "help" the (Quisling) Marxist Dictator retain power.....

and to assume / take full control of the countrys' Petro$$$$ / Resources....its been done before, "We don't need "no stinkin' " USDollars / Russian Ruble work just fine."
9 posted on 09/22/2008 4:01:45 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass ("Annoy the media, elect PALIN and McCAIN....errr....McCAIN / PALIN.....McPALIN" 8^)
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Yeah, well, that’s what I’m worried about.


10 posted on 09/22/2008 4:03:45 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (I would spend more time on FR but I have to make sure my tires are inflated.)
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“Pakistan is now protecting AQ and allowing it to reconstitute in the north west. “

Pakistan has been allowing this for a long time. Thats where Osama has been since Tora Bora.


11 posted on 09/22/2008 4:03:55 AM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: HAL9000
My take is that Russia is anticipating an Obamabiden victory in November, and Moscow intends to capitalize on what they expect to be American weakness and lack of resolve over the following four years.
12 posted on 09/22/2008 4:09:23 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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Well, I think they are being a little more overt about it now.


13 posted on 09/22/2008 4:12:17 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (I would spend more time on FR but I have to make sure my tires are inflated.)
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To: HAL9000

OK, where’s Russia’s southern fleet?


14 posted on 09/22/2008 4:19:35 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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We were eating at a Mexican food rest. Sunday morning. Some Spanish language TV program was playing a *Meet the press* type show. They were showing vids of Hugo and discussing Venezuala in a very serious manner for about 20 minutes.

Wonder if our neighbors to the
south know something’s up?


15 posted on 09/22/2008 4:19:43 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: markomalley

It kind of is Bush’s fault. I think history will see his biggest mistake to be the failure to get rid of Chavez when Chavez was actually in custody and standing at the airport, about to be shot or exiled to Cuba. Pressure from the US - or at the very least, lack of support - led to his release.

Bush initially supported the Venezuelan forces that had briefly expelled Chavez, but as soon as there was anger from the Dems and left and howls of outrage at the loss of one of their leading darlings, he backed down. This not only allowed Chavez to resume power, and in fact become much more powerful, it abandoned the people who had risked everything to get him out. It also showed that we would do nothing to help, and led to the unopposed spread of radical Marxism to several other countries (Ecuador and Bolivia, particularly) that were actually struggling capitalist democracies at the beginning of Bush’s tenure.


16 posted on 09/22/2008 4:20:06 AM PDT by livius
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To: John Leland 1789

Allowing nukes within earshot of the US border isn’t capitalizing on America’s weakness? WTF?


17 posted on 09/22/2008 4:21:37 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: John Leland 1789

excellent call,

its not how we see ourselves.
its how others see us.

they see a large window of opportunity and are already acting on it.

hopefully they are wrong, elsewise it will be the BIGGEST mistake america has ever made

And if so,the last opportunity to make a big mistake again

America will be done!


18 posted on 09/22/2008 4:35:17 AM PDT by himno hero
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“Allowing nukes within earshot of the US border isn’t capitalizing on America’s weakness?”


Yes it is. That’s what I stated in my post.


19 posted on 09/22/2008 4:36:06 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I’m not impressed with one Russian Fleet visiting South America. If their intention is hostile, we have land based resources/Submarine resources to deal with them.

Any delivery of war supplies/nukes to Venezuela would be more cheaper and more easily accomplished using standard commercial shipments.

This is Geopolitical feather ruffling by a tin pot dictator and a Russian criminal.

What is Chavez going to do with a fleet asset? Invade Columbia? He’d be toast unless Bush decided to turn into a pansy on military matters.


20 posted on 09/22/2008 4:40:25 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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