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Posted on 09/21/2008 2:53:35 PM PDT by Renkluaf

Much of this has been discussed or published here or in other publications. I wanted to put it together in one place.

So what does all this mean? Simple, banks and mortgage companies were coerced into making mortgages available to many who were not able to handle the debt. I have no doubt there were some unscrupulous mortgage lenders because every industry has those who abuse the rules.

When interest rates rose the default rates accelerated because of the high percentage of questionable mortgages. With high and accelerating foreclosure rates the market value of the MBS plummeted until there was essentially no market for them. The result, a bankrupt system.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: economicpolicy; financialcrisis; housingbubble
You decide who is at fault in this disaster!
1 posted on 09/21/2008 2:53:35 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: Renkluaf

bttb


2 posted on 09/21/2008 3:00:24 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Renkluaf
Democrats, with the help of spineless Republicans who feared being called a racist, even though there were a number of white people that shouldn't have gotten loans either.

Nothing to see here folks, please move along.. everything is SNAFU, as usual.

3 posted on 09/21/2008 3:06:27 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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bttt


4 posted on 09/21/2008 3:14:27 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: Renkluaf
So what does all this mean? Simple, banks and mortgage companies were coerced into making mortgages available to many who were not able to handle the debt. I have no doubt there were some unscrupulous mortgage lenders because every industry has those who abuse the rules.

While I agree with your summary insofar as Government action is concerned, I think you place far too little blame on the huge financial houses, who were more than happy to operate in the environment that the government created. You make it sound like a matter of, "yeah, there were a few bad apples, but..." But the incredible magnitude of the failures in question make it pretty clear that there were a whole LOT of bad apples, making a whole lot of really stinky deals.

Lehman Brothers, Countrywide, and all those others were not forced by the government to get in so incredibly deep as they did. They were busy making (illusory) big bucks on shady deals, and eventually the false basis of their financial arrangements came home to roost.

FWIW, I think you probably need to add another contributing factor; namely, the changes in banking regulations allowing multi-state mergers, letting banks deal in securities, and so on.

One of the major reasons why this crisis is so huge, is because of the significant concentration of assets within a quite small number of financial institutions that have been created over the years by bank mergers and acquisitions. Once those huge banks began engaging in the highly questionable financial arrangements that have now crashed, it was only a matter of time before a too-huge-to-allow type of failure occurred.

5 posted on 09/21/2008 3:15:08 PM PDT by r9etb
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Because money turns a blind eye to otherwise repulsive men.


6 posted on 09/21/2008 3:22:20 PM PDT by februus
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I’ve been reading all day about this .......the Glass-Steagall Act which Clinton killed in 1999. Comments sought.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/03/071603.asp


7 posted on 09/21/2008 3:26:07 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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The fundamental problem was that Freddie/Fannie did not have to uphold any standards to maintain their AAA credit rating. If they weren’t viewed as being government-backed, they would not have engaged in the sort of games they did since the resulting drop in credit rating would have hurt them severely in the marketplace.


8 posted on 09/21/2008 3:49:06 PM PDT by supercat
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Stellar post. Thank you. Bump.


9 posted on 09/21/2008 4:23:10 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: Renkluaf
Nice summary! And up there in your early bullets points, don't forget about DOJ's doctrine of "disparate impact" back in the early 90s. Regulators and prosecutors arm in arm.

PC Lending.

"Now that the United States Department of Justice has taken to enforcing the doctrine of "disparate impact," no lender of sound mind can allow a person's character to enter into a credit decision. Such a judgment could never be defended in any statistical analysis of a bank's loan files."

10 posted on 09/21/2008 4:38:49 PM PDT by gotribe (The right pick!)
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Excellent, and thank you so much!!


11 posted on 09/21/2008 4:59:50 PM PDT by MarMema (regime change in Russia!!)
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bookMarc


12 posted on 09/21/2008 7:34:18 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (When BH0 was 8 he attended his mosque in jakarta; Bill Ayers was simultaneously bombing the Pentagon)
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To: r9etb
The "few bad apples" comment was in reference to those mortgage originators who sold completely unqualified people mortgages they knew would fail.

As for the commercial banks and investment banks, they did what they've done for decades - put the safest, most liquid securities onto their balance sheets - i.e. mortgage backed securities. You can argue that the leverage ratios should not have been allowed to increase (i.e. $1 of assets supporting "X" amount of borrowing). However, the point of the collapse is that, due to the high concentration of sub-prime mortgages and the accelerating default rates, what was a very safe, highly liquid security now has no value and no market.

13 posted on 09/22/2008 3:19:46 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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The "few bad apples" comment was in reference to those mortgage originators who sold completely unqualified people mortgages they knew would fail.

And yet the mortgage market cratered under the load of a large number of bad loans. Either those few bad apples worked really hard, or there were a lot more than a few of them.

However, the point of the collapse is that, due to the high concentration of sub-prime mortgages and the accelerating default rates, what was a very safe, highly liquid security now has no value and no market.

This contradicts what you said before. Clearly the basis for those "safe, liquid securities" was false to begin with -- as shown by the '99 NYT article that JimRob posted the other day. It was obvious even then that the "safety" of those investments was illusory: "In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's."

14 posted on 09/22/2008 4:20:41 PM PDT by r9etb
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Link

15 posted on 09/22/2008 4:26:40 PM PDT by semantic
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LOL! Yeah, I recall it from last year, and saw it again today.


16 posted on 09/22/2008 5:03:54 PM PDT by r9etb
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I'm certain that those "bad apples" did work quite hard given the "relaxed" underwriting standards supported by the Boston Fed pamphlet. Add to that the legions of "marginal" applicants who believed they could stretch to handle a mortgage under the assumption rates would remain low. Keep in mind from a mortgage broker's perspective, after you've gotten the "prime" customers to refinance once, twice maybe three times, the hunt for new customers redirects in mass to the one area that remains underpenetrated but the highest risk - sub-prime.

As to the second point, the MBS market HAD BEEN for many decades the safest and most liquid of markets. What the buyers of those MBS did not know was the underlying changes taking place in the quality of the mortgages functioning as collateral for those securities.

17 posted on 09/23/2008 2:30:58 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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