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‘Never Again,’ Again (NYT nonsense)
New York Times ^ | September 20, 2008

Posted on 09/20/2008 7:24:33 PM PDT by reaganaut1

Hurricane Gustav gave the state of Louisiana a test for which it had three years to prepare. There were thousands of poor, sick, disabled and elderly people who could not get out on their own. They needed to be rescued with dispatch, and sheltered in safety and dignity.

One simple test. The state flunked.

Three years to the week after Hurricane Katrina’s landfall, Louisiana executed a fundamentally unfair evacuation plan and did it badly. It relied on dividing the population into separate streams: People with their own cars were directed to shelters run by parishes, churches and the Red Cross. People with medical problems not requiring hospitalization were taken to special shelters. Sex offenders had a shelter to themselves.

All those without a car or a ride were taken on state buses to four state-run warehouses. It was in these shelters, including two abandoned stores, a Wal-Mart and a Sam’s Club, that thousands of working-poor New Orleanians got a sickening reminder of Katrina.

Evacuees said they had had no idea where they were going; bus drivers would not tell them. When they arrived, there were not enough portable toilets, and no showers. For five days there was no way to bathe, except with bottled water in filthy outdoor toilets. Privacy in the vast open space — 1,000 people to a warehouse, shoulder-to-shoulder on cots — was nonexistent. The mood among evacuees was grim, surrounded as they were by police officers and the National Guard, with no visitors or reporters allowed.

“We didn’t want to evacuate into a prison,” Lethia Brooks told the New Orleans Workers’ Center for Racial Justice, an organization that accompanied the evacuees, inspected the shelters and collected hundreds of stories into a report sharply critical of the state’s response.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: hurricanegustav; jindal; propagandawingofdnc
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Does the NYT not understand why the sex offenders were placed in a separate shelter?

Temporary emergency shelter for large numbers of people is not going to be comfortable. If there were no police or National Guardsmen at the shelters and violence occurred, I am sure the Times would be wailing about that. The complaining people don't seem to have any gratitude for having been taken out of harm's way. I wonder how much they pay in taxes.

What do Lousiana Freepers think about the performance of the Jindal administration in dealing with hurricane Gustav?

1 posted on 09/20/2008 7:24:33 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

The basic question is did they have 3 hots, a cot and dry socks? If they did then they are in fat city.


2 posted on 09/20/2008 7:28:08 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: reaganaut1
“The state flunked”.

F**k the NYT. Sorry mods, but this is ridiculous. How did the state fail other than the NYT hoping that the Jindal administration killed 1000+?

3 posted on 09/20/2008 7:28:13 PM PDT by Carling (I'm a Typical White Person)
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To: reaganaut1
The concept of "Act of God" is unacceptable to the NYT because they are atheists.

All things are possible if you don't believe in anything.

4 posted on 09/20/2008 7:28:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: Carling

It’s an opinion piece - you known what they say about opinions.

They are like a$$holes - everybody has one ... and generally they stink. Whoever wrote this piece of garbage - his is probably in the middle of his forehead.


5 posted on 09/20/2008 7:33:16 PM PDT by JoeVet
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Aside from abortion, gun control and treason I don’t guess there’s much the NYT can’t find fault with.


6 posted on 09/20/2008 7:35:06 PM PDT by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
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“Never again will we get on the bus to be warehoused. We’ll ride out the next storm.”

So, getting your life together - including purchasing a car - so you can escape with the normal folks is out of the question?

Sounds like the good, productive citizens win no matter what. The parasites will get their lives together or die in the next storm.

Bobby Jindal’s administration should move quickly on a better plan that does not expose the poor to differential, substandard treatment.

Guv'ment ain't Daddy. Grow up.

7 posted on 09/20/2008 7:36:43 PM PDT by CE2949BB (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: CE2949BB

Aww geez, let’s make Jindal and FEMA keep 10 or 20 cruise ships on retainer so the lovely folk can trash those, then complain about the lousy room service.


8 posted on 09/20/2008 7:40:09 PM PDT by GnuHere
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“We didn’t want to evacuate into a prison,” Lethia Brooks told the New Orleans Workers’ Center for Racial Justice

Nope, she wanted a dignified suite at the Marriot along with a $2000 debit card.

9 posted on 09/20/2008 7:40:53 PM PDT by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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To: reaganaut1

Hahahhahahaha.

Your daily Pravda.


10 posted on 09/20/2008 7:45:23 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach
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To: reaganaut1
While irritating, the lack of bathing facilities is NOT life-threatening.

On the other side, and never published in any MSM is the letter from a VOLUNTEER nurse who worked three days in one of these shelters with no pay, 24 hr periods with no sleep, and no gratitude--not that she looked for gratitude, just for people willing to help her help them.

Just a few of her comments--parents forgot their children's insulin and breathing medication, but managed to remember their cell phones and cigarettes. While she took care of a sick child and cleaned up his vomit, the mother lay back on a cot and REFUSED to help, telling the RN that was her job. While they lounged and smoked, mothers expected the nurse to not only take temps. administer medication, even GET the meds they forgot to bring, and then clean up and change babies--they told her that was what she was there for.

Then they griped about EVERYTHING from meals, drinks, basically that it was not the Marriott and all for free, with room service.

Meanwhile, she was not seeing her little ones for three days, was eating and drinking what was provided in MRE's.

She came away with the attitude of what kind of monster have we created?

vaudine

11 posted on 09/20/2008 7:46:17 PM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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To: reaganaut1

The New York Times is irrelevant. I said it. It no longer is the paper of record. It’s a hack paper written for an extremist group and is no longer influential. Its sales suck and its equity is hitting the sh*tter. How fun it is to watch it thrash about though.


12 posted on 09/20/2008 7:49:43 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach
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To: reaganaut1

What part of ‘natural disaster’ does the New York Times not understand?


13 posted on 09/20/2008 7:49:50 PM PDT by Silly (PalinLove.com)
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To: vaudine

Apparently, no one working at the NYT has ever been in the Army.


14 posted on 09/20/2008 7:53:26 PM PDT by Old North State
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To: reaganaut1

The ignorant writers at the NYT must have confused an evacuation in the path of a hurricane with a cruise to Cancun.
No one drowned. Everyone was fed. Everyone will get to ride the free buses back to New Orleans and wait for the next hurricane.
No wonder people hate the NYT.


15 posted on 09/20/2008 7:57:41 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: SandRat
If they did then they are in fat city.

Was that a shot at Nawleans welfare class?

16 posted on 09/20/2008 8:00:30 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: reaganaut1

I refuse to click on the link & read the rest of this NYT article that is far from the truth I know about the evacuation center that was in our area. I have never seen a man work so hard to make things right for everyone during both hurricanes that wreaked havoc thru our state as did Gov. Jindal. He probably never slept for a week.

Horror stories did emerge from the evac center but it was of irresponsible, ungrateful, complaining, people who stole from local stores, ate at & left restaurants without paying & destroyed the shower facilities they were taken to. They seemed to be mad that they were put up in hotels. But they were all given money when they got on the busses along with MREs and water. The Picadilly Cafeteria provided food for them & cut choices at their regular location to do this.

The older evacuees were calm and kind & seemed grateful for the shelter, but the younger ones were very hard to deal with. Most of these came from the 9th ward of N.O. The mothers laid around absolutely unconcerned about their toddlers running amuck. If they were sick & throwing up, they didn’t care. They wouldn’t lift a finger to help them. Shelter volunteers spent a lot of time trying to find which mother these kids belonged to. This small town does not want to house these people again.

Bobby Jindal cannot help people who do not help themselves. He was magnificent during the storms & whatever can be done to improve the plan & response in the future, he will do it.


17 posted on 09/20/2008 8:02:28 PM PDT by nana4bush
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To: reaganaut1

Unlike the editors of the NY Times who watch hurricanes from the Upper West Side (or East side, is it? I really don’t know and I guess it’s important), I’ve actually been through a hurricane. Maybe you have a few days warning. Sure, you know one is out there, but do you evacuate for every storm in the Gulf? Of course not.

The performance of the state of Louisiana was exemplary for Hurricane Gustav. Anyone who actually has been through one instead of eating cheese and and drinking a Riesling while watching it on the Weather Channel knows this.

And yes, I’m a reactionary right-wing conservative Republican who eats little kittens in his spare time.


18 posted on 09/20/2008 8:05:42 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach
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To: CE2949BB
The usual lib victimhood rant. You can't make it on your own in this country. The New York Times can't take a moment to notice no one died and was not in lack of help from families, neighbors and community associations. But they had to blame government for not doing all the work. Gee, thanks - for nothing!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 09/20/2008 8:06:16 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: nana4bush

Sorry about a typo. Was mad while typing. Meant to say evacuees seemed mad they “weren’t” put in hotels. It was, in fact, an old Walmart that was the shelter site.


20 posted on 09/20/2008 8:07:21 PM PDT by nana4bush
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