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Voter Fraud And 'Activist' Schemes
The Bulletin ^ | 09/16/2008 | Marion Edwyn Harrison

Posted on 09/19/2008 6:41:05 AM PDT by IbJensen

The Department of Justice (DOJ) does little to attempt to assure that a voter is qualified to vote. DOJ should do little because the States, not the Feds, ought to undertake major efforts to assure the integrity of voter identification and also because DOJ is inundated with other clearly Federal demands - criminal felonies, tax litigation, all manner of Federal litigation, investigations, advice by opinions, so forth. Were it that little or no DOJ intervention were necessary to help prevent the nonqualified voter from voting. Unfortunately that is not the situation in many voting districts, particularly in some large urban areas heavily populated by immigrants and by transients (sometimes transient within the urban area).

For rather obvious reasons, nobody knows with any measure of accuracy, even a widely ranging estimate, how many million illegal are in this country. In May 2007 the Census Bureau calculated - maybe estimated? - that there are some 44.3 million immigrants, predominantly Hispanic or Latino. Further, it is obvious that in many areas, especially large cities, residents whose citizenship is not questioned do not own or long-time lease the property in which they live. That alone unfortunately opens many doors to unauthorized voting - in the wrong ward or precinct, in two different polling places, so on.

There are under way in many parts of the country what probably are voter-registration drives so massive as to be unprecedented - e.g., Virginia, in its unusual role as a State in play for the Nov. 4, elections, in this year alone has increased its registered-voter count by about 211,000, to almost 4.8 million.

In this context DOJ should be commended for initiating a limited effort to reduce voting rights violations by deploying several hundred personnel around the country. However, "activists" - the common media word for leftist agitators - are challenging, complaining, claiming discrimination.

The ideal voting booth quite obviously is manned by one's neighbors so that many people lined up to vote are known to an election judge or clerk or poll watcher and all have thorough identification of their name and residence that the (often a volunteer) poll judge, clerk or watcher convincingly can identify the individual seeking to vote by name, relevant local address and prior recorded registration.

Why, then are Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey, whose experience and objectivity cannot seriously be challenged, and other relevant DOJ personnel challenged - aye, attacked, insulted (by mostly leftist and/or alleged civil-rights groups) ?

The predominant reason is beyond question. These groups want to herd, directly or indirectly, as many nonqualified individuals as possible to the polls, in the hope and expectation, not infrequently fulfilled, that those folks will vote for candidates running as and/or espousing leftist causes.

Studies about the subject of unauthorized voting, not unexpectedly, are infrequent and not very authoritative. Those who conduct them rather disproportionately are liberal academics or political organizations. Our Founding Fathers never envisioned the great masses' voting. Voting generally required land ownership. Drivers' licenses and similar identification did not exist. Familiarity and land records did exist. Today we have a plethora of drivers' licenses, some substantively accurate and some not; vastly less familiarity or personal recognition within many cities; and readily accessible land records. However, the totality is that an inaccurate driver's license or some phony identification too often suffices to admit an individual to the voting booth.

The solution is not yet - and perhaps never may be - politically acceptable. Two possibilities come to mind. One would be a Federal or State identification card, driver's license or otherwise, which displays not less than full name, home address, voting status (township, ward, precinct, etc.), date current residence acquired, photograph. Another would be a document created and certified under State law evidencing that the holder owned the property of his or her residence, fee simple or condominium, or rented pursuant to a written lease. Simplest of all, State law also could require advance registration of six months, preferably one year, perhaps with an exception for active-duty military personnel and their spouses.

The foregoing solution, or most of it, is not politically attainable in the foreseeable future. Meantime - a long mean time - let us commend the Attorney General and all others in Federal and State public office who seek to assure that voters are American citizens, voting only once per election day, and voting in the voting place applicable to their residence.

Might one be suspicious of the motives of those who denigrate that effort?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; acorn; democratparty; democrats; dncbrownshirts; elections; howtostealanelection; illegalvotes; nobama08; votefraud; voterfraud
In May 2007 the Census Bureau calculated - maybe estimated? - that there are some 44.3 million immigrants, predominantly Hispanic or Latino.

We can be certain that the 'RATS will register these as DemocRATs along with as many dead people as possible.

This next election will be the smarmiest, most corrupt in the history of the world

The DOJ had better get busy and earn their salaries.

1 posted on 09/19/2008 6:41:05 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Ours won’t be the most corrupt in the history of the world. That honor is reserved for the elections of Fidel Castro and Saddam Hussein.

This will have the most stolen votes.


2 posted on 09/19/2008 6:45:43 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: IbJensen; HowardLSmith.ô¿ô; hoosiermama; darth; Liz; backhoe; Certified Horticulturist

I wonder what the requirements will be for the dead to continue to participate, politically.


3 posted on 09/19/2008 6:57:26 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: IbJensen

You should have watched the dems on the House Judiciary Committee grilling the FBI yesterday!

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=281139-1

Pay particular attention to the dem leaders(most of them members of the black caucus). The dem ‘strategy’ for voter fraud is going to center around not examing people’s addresses, because so many of them have ‘lost their homes’ in the mortgage crisis and hurricanes. (eye roll)

This was clear from the line of questioning....so the republicans had better be prepared for it with an army of election lawyers in every polling place!


4 posted on 09/19/2008 6:58:05 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Calpernia
A GREAT IDEA BY FREEPER CALPERNIA: Calpernia contacted DHS to see if she could register a county Republican organization. This way, they could enter in politicians that wanted to run for office. Calpernia was motivated by Obama’s questionable immigration status, and a state senator that needs to be checked (Sen Menendez (D NJ).

The people at the eVerify department told Cal that politicians don’t work for us, they work for the government. They didn’t agree with Cal's perception that citizens vet and vote for them.

LET'S MOVE THIS GREAT IDEA BY FREEPER CALPERNIA: We must move forward eVerify as a political tool. We need to eVerify incumbents and all politicans running for office----their staffs---AND THEIR DONORS.

DHS needs to register all political organizations so that Americans could enter the names of politicians wanting to run for public office. Particularly in light of Obama’s questionable immigration status.

Some incumbents need to be checked out----US Sen Menendez (D-NJ) comes to mind. When he was under fire for using his office to ger federal money for a facility he rented out to a non-profit, Menendez ran off and took cover the Dominican Republic (probably visiting his tax-free bank accounts). Menendez continual defense of illegals is most troubling---Menendez acts like a foreign national--not an elected American who swore allegiance to our country.

The current eVerify department holds the position that politicians don’t work for us, they work for the government.

Nonsense.

DHS needs to confirm candidates, their donors and the status of their staff.

In cases where illegals are registering to vote with forged documents, we need to get this info out.

5 posted on 09/19/2008 7:14:37 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: Liz

>>>>The people at the eVerify department told Cal that politicians don’t work for us, they work for the government. They didn’t agree with Cal’s perception that citizens vet and vote for them.

To go along with that comment, did you see the ruling made in McCain’s court complaint yesterday?

REF EXCERPT:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iJ3AHoO_Qz6G8f2AyVBVqU0q9RkwD938R6D80

Judge says McCain is a ‘natural born citizen’
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A federal judge has thrown out a lawsuit seeking to remove John McCain from the California ballot because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone.


the judge, in his ruling set a precident to have Obama’s court case thrown out. Look:

‘The judge also said the plaintiff, Markham Robinson, chairman of the American Independent Party, had no standing to file the lawsuit because he is not a candidate for president.’

So unless McCain files against Obama, I read it that Obama can run as a non citizen.


The judge in essence said what DHS told me. The politicians/candidates don’t work for the citizens.


6 posted on 09/19/2008 7:19:50 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: penelopesire

>>>The dem ‘strategy’ for voter fraud is going to center around not examing people’s addresses, because so many of them have ‘lost their homes’ in the mortgage crisis and hurricanes. (eye roll)

Ironically, ACORN is orchestrating a voter registration drive to register ‘transient voters’ (homeless people). They have the transient voters register using soup kitchens and park corner crossroads where they hang out as their address. No, I’m not joking.


7 posted on 09/19/2008 7:22:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Not surprising...ACORN is(as you know) famous for voter fraud. Who checks to see if these people have felony records? My guess is no-one. Further more, Acorn can just drive these folks around to different voting precincts to vote ‘early and often’. I hope we are ready for them!


8 posted on 09/19/2008 7:33:39 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire
>>>Who checks to see if these people have felony records?

In my state, felonies are recruited.


9 posted on 09/19/2008 7:40:01 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: IbJensen

Shouldn’t the Feds be more involved in Federal election fraud, particularly presidential elections?


10 posted on 09/19/2008 7:43:56 AM PDT by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: Calpernia

I saw a sign just like that while traveling to Mississippi this past summer. Unbelievable!


11 posted on 09/19/2008 7:51:57 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: IbJensen

Updated voter fraud(2008) is registering illegal aliens.. in mass.. A part of 20/30 million illegals voting can and will scew the election.. Whos polling the illegals?..


12 posted on 09/19/2008 7:53:30 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
We have one of the most serious problems confronting our nation today, and that is illegal aliens and the prospects for mischief this affords the Democrat Communist Party.

It is important to recognize how this mess has exacerbated under the auspices of the current administration where our president has had some type of weird love affair that allowed him, by his actions, to encourage this criminal action.

I believed that whatever candidate espoused the shutting down of our borders to illegals, the tracking of aliens with papers, and the deportation of ALL illegals, would be quite enough to get that individual elected.

For some screwy reason our Republicrat candidate for president intends to follow the same road paved by Bush. Simply not do a damned thing except wave a citizenship wand over the vast unwashed gaggle of braceros.

If need be, since I've now retired, I will volunteer to pick the tomatoes, but I draw the line at cutting another's grass. Let them prune their own trees and cut their own grass.

13 posted on 09/19/2008 8:19:36 AM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it!)
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To: hosepipe

...and another thing: eliminate all forms of welfare at the federal level. The state welfare machine will then collapse and many illegals will stream back across the border under there own steam.


14 posted on 09/19/2008 8:21:35 AM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it!)
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To: hosepipe

>>>Whos polling the illegals?..

Good question. Seems McCain and Obama want their vote.

John McCain speaking at National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials and promising to enforce his legislature he introduced with Ted Kennedy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0hVjtC8_pI
McCain promises amnesty in first 100 days to NALEO

And here is McCain’s ad, in SPANISH, promising a path to citizenship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyKGHvRL2_U
posted by From: JohnMcCaindotcom
paid for by: McCain/Palin

This ad is not about immigrants, legal immigrants already have a path to citizenship. This ad is about legalizing ILLEGAL aliens!


15 posted on 09/19/2008 8:26:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: hosepipe

>>>Whos polling the illegals?..

Good question. Seems McCain and Obama want their vote.

John McCain speaking at National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials and promising to enforce his legislature he introduced with Ted Kennedy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0hVjtC8_pI
McCain promises amnesty in first 100 days to NALEO

And here is McCain’s ad, in SPANISH, promising a path to citizenship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyKGHvRL2_U
posted by From: JohnMcCaindotcom
paid for by: McCain/Palin

This ad is not about immigrants, legal immigrants already have a path to citizenship. This ad is about legalizing ILLEGAL aliens!


16 posted on 09/19/2008 8:27:54 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
[ Good question. Seems McCain and Obama want their vote. ]

NON citizens voting is a felony..
How can you vote if you're not even a citizen?..
If you're an illegal alien you're not even an alien..
What you are is an INSURGENT...

17 posted on 09/19/2008 8:33:30 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

>>>What you are is an INSURGENT...

Who remembers Persia?


18 posted on 09/19/2008 8:35:24 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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