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Judge says McCain is a 'natural born citizen'
AP ^ | 09/18/2008 | AP

Posted on 09/18/2008 5:41:11 PM PDT by Brytani

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- A federal judge has thrown out a lawsuit seeking to remove John McCain from the California ballot because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

U.S. District Judge William Alsup ruled late Tuesday that the law at the time of McCain's birth automatically granted citizenship to offspring of U.S. citizens.

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To: Citizen Blade

My understanding is that the United States does allow dual citizenship, however if the nation you choose to join youself to does not allow dual citizenship, the United States respects that law and your citizenship becomes void.

However in Barrys case, when he becomes an adult at the age of 18 he can go to any foreign office of the United States and swear aleigence to reclaim his citizenship. Barry/Obama could simply produce a copy of his registration for the draft, or refer to the records of the office that he preformed this duty at.

However, to travel has he is suspected to have done at the age of 19 on an Indonesian passport is an indication that he did not do this. Which could make him invalid to run as President. Strange that this would even be an issue.

In the case of Israel, you are allowed dual Citizenship, so if you happen to make Aliah, you do not loose your American Citizenship.

In the case of Indonesia, you are not allowed dual Citizenship, so he would have to fufill the requirements of the law.

And at the age of 19, I doubt that he was very aware of his illegal actions of maintaining his Indonesian citizenship with his new US citizenship.


81 posted on 09/19/2008 11:45:00 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
My understanding is that the United States does allow dual citizenship, however if the nation you choose to join youself to does not allow dual citizenship, the United States respects that law and your citizenship becomes void.

I think that's correct- if you actively take actions to renounce your American citizenship, such as taking the citizenship of a country that does not recognize dual citizenship, then your American citizenship status may be in trouble.

I'm not sure what the Obamessiah's situation was when it came to his Indonesian citizenship. There's no indication that he actively sought the citizenship (if he ever had it). If he was an Indonesian citizen automatically through birth, then there is no issue under American law, regardless of any problems Indonesia may have with dual citizenship. My kids, for example, will be American, Canadian and Serbian citizens automatically at birth (and may qualify for Danish citizenship through my wife), all of whcih will be perfectly legal under American law.

82 posted on 09/22/2008 7:35:42 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Polarik

Sorry, you are in error.

Your comments are appropos ‘NATIVE’ born citizens. They are born in the USA.

‘NATURAL’ born citizens are born abroad from at least one US citizen parent.


83 posted on 09/30/2008 6:38:57 PM PDT by dodger
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To: dodger
‘NATURAL’ born citizens are born abroad from at least one US citizen parent

Not exactly.

first of all, the laws are nowhere near being as specific as you make them out to be.

Secondly, the laws that were on the books at the time when Obama was born DO apply -- current laws do not go back in time to 1961 andf over turn the laws that were in effect. Pp> Also, there are no provisions for "Grandfathering" in Obama who became "naturalized" later on.

84 posted on 10/01/2008 5:04:24 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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