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SEC to temporarily ban short-selling: report
Marketwatch ^ | 9-18-08 | Robert Schroeder

Posted on 09/18/2008 5:36:14 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission intends to temporarily ban short-selling, The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday night. It's unclear if the commission has approved the move, the Journal reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; chriscox; economicpolicy; economy; govwatch; housingbubble; meltdown; nss; sec; wallstreet
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To: RKBA Democrat

Good. Great move.


21 posted on 09/18/2008 6:23:37 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: RKBA Democrat

So who will buy when the market is crashing?


22 posted on 09/18/2008 6:31:17 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: RKBA Democrat

I thought it was only naked shorts which I also thought were already banned, but not enforced?


23 posted on 09/18/2008 6:32:25 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

bttt


24 posted on 09/18/2008 6:33:15 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: trumandogz
How can you talk a market down after the government is nationalizing one of the largest corporations

I said: "Can we ban the DemoRats from talking the economy down too?", not "a market".

25 posted on 09/18/2008 6:43:57 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The beauty of conservatism, Sarah Palin.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Shorting is trading, not investing. Shorting is taking capital out of the markets, investing is putting it in. Maybe the feds want money into and not out of the market.

Frankly, I prefer the feds lay off the markets including never using taxpayer money to affect the markets. The feds should only be worried about crimes of fraud and theft in the markets and let the market move where it may.


26 posted on 09/18/2008 6:45:04 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: DaGman

Nonsense. It is a government intervention in a Free Market.


27 posted on 09/18/2008 6:53:36 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Rutles4Ever
If markets are not free to fail, then they are not free!

"If it's too big to be allowed to fail, it's too big to be allowed to exist in the first place."

Coming to a politician near you.

28 posted on 09/18/2008 6:58:32 PM PDT by poindexter
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To: Navy Patriot

Okay, how do you talk up an economy where the government is natioalizing industry?


29 posted on 09/18/2008 7:06:36 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

“Okay, how do you talk up an economy where the government is natioalizing industry?”

Maybe the FED will call Pres. Chavez down in Venezuala to give them some pointers.


30 posted on 09/18/2008 7:32:36 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: RKBA Democrat
SEC to temporarily ban short-selling: report

Seeing how "naked" short-selling was banned since the 1930s
(1938?)...please explain why it was a good idea to allow it
starting in early 2007.

This is simply a very neutral request for a justification of
allowing the "naked" version of short selling into the market again.

You'll serve FR well if you explain why it's a good or simply a
"neutral" idea in today's investment environment.

Thanks in advance.

I also request this info because even some of the major people
on CNBC have been saying "What do you mean?" when expert/arcane
terminology is used by the spokes-persons appearing on CNBC
during the last couple of days.
31 posted on 09/18/2008 7:43:00 PM PDT by VOA
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To: RKBA Democrat

The fact that the Chinese have never allowed short-selling sure seems to have helped their stock market. (sarcasm)


32 posted on 09/18/2008 7:46:29 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: A Strict Constructionist

that’s what it thought too. I am very well versed on NSS and it is a huge problem and in many runs companies into the ground.
The non enforcement of the T -3 and the stock borrow program has made so much trouble and trilions being taken from the average shareholder. I suspect alot of this has to do with cleaning up the markets so there is no more NSS.


33 posted on 09/18/2008 7:55:00 PM PDT by genxer
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To: RKBA Democrat

I was under the impression that the intent here is eliminating naked shorts, not all shorts, but what do I know?


34 posted on 09/18/2008 8:04:22 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama who?)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Its unclear but it sounds like they are banning the already illegal Naked Shorting.


35 posted on 09/18/2008 8:04:49 PM PDT by omega4179 ("John McCain has not... talked about... My muslim faith")
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To: RKBA Democrat

Why bad? If some of the wise guy traders are doing it to make a fast buck artificially driving down stocks-—ban the stupid practice.


36 posted on 09/18/2008 8:06:38 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

This appears to be a complete ban. This could mean shorts will have to be closed out, puts will have to be exercised or sold, etc. Could be the beginning of a massive rally, followed by the kind of crash experienced by China, which has never allowed short-selling. Goodbye, Dow 10,000; hello, Dow 5,000.


37 posted on 09/18/2008 8:06:44 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: RKBA Democrat

I wish that people would make up their minds already...You can’t have it both ways. Is America Socialist or Capitalist? In public policy we are about 80-20 Capitalist to Socialist right now.

Public policy towards commerical and investment banks is a mixed bag.

If we are for free markets, than Gubmint has to leave them alone without regulations and let them compete on a global scale...but that means no Gubmint bailouts. Don’t come crying to the taxpayers. If you thought it was a good idea to package the loans to homeless and unemployed people that libs insisted you make into a CDO and try to sell it...too bad.

If we are for Socialism, and taxpayers will be on the hook to bail you out, than Gubmint has the right and the duty to regulate you up to your eyeballs whether you like it or not. Their money, their rules. (really our money, our rules)

Which is it?


38 posted on 09/18/2008 8:08:22 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

bttt


39 posted on 09/18/2008 8:11:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

So I can’t sell my next-door-neighbor’s house to the guy that’s been asking, hoping that the housing market will crash and I can buy it back cheaper before my neighbor notices?
:-)

I don’t know if this is a good or bad thing. I have the opinion that eliminating the uptick rule on short sales was a mistake, and that allowing a short sale when the person selling hasn’t already borrowed the stock was a bad thing, I’m not sure I’d completely ban them.

However, if this is a VERY TEMPORARY move while they put in place a strong enforcement mechanism to stop selling stock if you haven’t borrowed it yet, then maybe it makes sense.

People can still buy and sell puts and calls, so you can still make money betting that a stock will go down.

You just can’t actually force sales of the stock at lower prices on the market, so you won’t be able to directly move the stock lower unless you OWN the stock and want to unload it at a loss.


40 posted on 09/18/2008 8:14:56 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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