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Pakistani troops fire at US choppers that crossed border
asianews ^ | 09/16/2008

Posted on 09/18/2008 1:13:18 AM PDT by sidewinder009

Pakistani authorities both confirm and deny the incident that took place near Angoor Adda where a US raid against alleged terrorist on 3 September resulted in the death of women and children. Pakistani general says his country is ready to defend its territory against anyone.

Islamabad (AsiaNews/Agencies) – Pakistani troops fired at US military helicopters forcing them to turn back after they crossed into South Waziristan near Angoor Adda, a village some 30 kilometres from Wana, the region’s largest town.

“Our troops did not spare them, opened fire on them and they turned away,” a Pakistani security official said in confirming the incident.

Other sources noted that US armoured vehicles were seen moving on the Afghan side of the border.

Pakistan Military spokesman Major Murad Khan confirmed that shooting had taken place, but said that US helicopters did not cross into Pakistani airspace and Pakistani troops were not responsible for the shooting.

On 3 September at least 20 people, including women and children, were killed in Angoor Adda, sparking outrage in Pakistan, prompting a diplomatic protest.

The New York Times newspaper reported last week that US President George W. Bush gave the green light for US raids across the border.

The latest episode was the first overt ground incursion by US troops into Pakistan since US forces went into Afghanistan in 2001.

In the past few weeks the United States has intensified attacks by missile-firing drone aircraft on suspected al-Qaeda and Taliban targets in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

Pakistan is a crucial US ally in its war on terrorism, and its support is key to the success of Western forces trying to stabilize Afghanistan. But Washington has become impatient over Islamabad's response to the threat from al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters in Pakistan's tribal lands along the border.

Last week Pakistani Army Chief General Ashfaq Kayani said that Pakistan would not allow foreign troops onto its soil and Pakistan's sovereignty and territorial integrity would be defended at all costs.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; elvisbinladen; gwot; helicopters; islam; mohammedanism; pakistan; pakistanitroops; terror
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To: sidewinder009

No need. Osama is in Karachi, where he lives rather nicely, amoung the Taliban who fled to that city, and is protected.
One only needs to see the recent trend toward fanatasim, in that city; all the “honor” killings, to know it is true.

Interesting to note that this is the town Obama visited in college.


21 posted on 09/18/2008 4:33:52 AM PDT by tuckrdout (~ 'Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.' ~)
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To: tuckrdout

^fanaticism——spell check is a good thing...


22 posted on 09/18/2008 4:35:48 AM PDT by tuckrdout (~ 'Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.' ~)
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To: sidewinder009

Have they never seen the chopper scene of Apocalypse Now?

Add 3 or 4 decades of technology to that. Rinse and repeat.


23 posted on 09/18/2008 4:51:38 AM PDT by BobbyT
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To: BobbyT

Women and children - aren’t they sending their filthy bomb laden jihadists into Afghanistan killing women and children? This is war and war ain’t pretty. It’s time to take out the whole Pashtun corridor.


24 posted on 09/18/2008 4:55:13 AM PDT by yorkie01
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To: SkyPilot
DEAD almost seven years.
25 posted on 09/18/2008 4:57:42 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: Bobalu
It is past time to destroy Pakistan....totally.

OMFG! Where will Baskin-Robbins get their new franchisees from?

26 posted on 09/18/2008 5:09:45 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: sidewinder009
On 3 September at least 20 people, including women and children, were killed in Angoor Adda

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New York Times reporter to helicopter doorgunner: "How could you shoot women and chilrun?"

Doorgunner to New York Times reporter: "Easy. You don't lead them as much." (:^o)

27 posted on 09/18/2008 5:19:07 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: BGHater

“$11Bil to Pakistan in Foreign Aid since 2002.”

You are aware that that money was not used to benefit their people? It was used to prop up Musharraf’s military dictatorship and fight our WOT.


28 posted on 09/18/2008 6:07:24 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: FreeInWV

Was the $11 Bil a good investment for the US?


29 posted on 09/18/2008 6:10:08 AM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: ExGeeEye

>Last week Pakistani Army Chief General Ashfaq Kayani said that Pakistan would not allow foreign troops onto its soil and Pakistan’s sovereignty and territorial integrity would be defended at all costs.<

We can’t even keep Mexico off our land.


30 posted on 09/18/2008 7:26:09 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: sidewinder009

I have seen no report of US forces confirming that they were fired on by Pakistani troops in such an incident. This could just be for domestic consumption.


31 posted on 09/18/2008 7:53:08 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: BGHater

“Was the $11 Bil a good investment for the US?”

Remember, one of the stated goals of the current administration and the Bush doctrine is to plant and support the seeds of democracy.

It sounded like you were saying that the Pakistanis should feel beholden to us for giving them $11B worth of dictatorship.


32 posted on 09/18/2008 7:56:39 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: FreeInWV
I oppose Welfare domestically and abroad.

The Pakistan Gov’t chumped us and milked us for that money. They only did enough so they would get the continued money.

33 posted on 09/18/2008 8:06:28 AM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: BGHater

“The Pakistan Gov’t chumped us and milked us for that money. They only did enough so they would get the continued money.”

Actually, doesn’t Pakistan have a newly elected democratic government? Wasn’t the military dictatorship of Musharrif (who accepted all of that money) removed from office?

Should their new fledgling democracy be beholden to the foreign country that financed their last dictator? Should they surrender their national sovereignty against the wishes of their people to that country?


34 posted on 09/18/2008 8:27:39 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: sidewinder009

Fire back! I think we have superior forces in the area.


35 posted on 09/18/2008 9:17:42 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Bobalu
Pakistan has at least 5 operational subs that run on methanol with 12 nuclear capable launch tubes on each one. You can thank the French for supplying the designs and engineering expertise.
36 posted on 09/18/2008 9:46:03 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Do you refer to this?

http://mysite.verizon.net/jialpert/Politics/HwdBloom.htm


37 posted on 09/18/2008 9:53:21 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
Yes. The article says 16 launch tubes each, not 12. The 12,000 mile cruise range is pretty impressive as well.
38 posted on 09/18/2008 10:21:20 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: FreeInWV
“Should their new fledgling democracy be beholden to the foreign country that financed their last dictator? Should they surrender their national sovereignty against the wishes of their people to that country?”

Nope, but then we wouldn't have had all this war and violence in the first place if Pakistanis hadn't created the Taliban in Afghanistan which in turn sheltered Osama. So, the answer to your questions are. “Only if they want to survive”.

39 posted on 09/18/2008 10:29:33 AM PDT by monday
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To: Myrddin

>>5 operational subs

And I bet one of the constant duties of the Indian Navy is make like lamb on biryani with them.


40 posted on 09/18/2008 10:30:38 AM PDT by swarthyguy ( I assume that she wants to be treated the same way that guys want -Obama.)
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