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Can Zimmer Steal Lautenberg's Senate Seat for the GOP?
Various ^ | 9/16/08 | impeachedrapist

Posted on 09/16/2008 11:04:11 AM PDT by impeachedrapist

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To: impeachedrapist

Well, not promising. 36% and 39% in a Dem state is not a good position to be in. That’s too much ground to make up from people who are not his friends.


81 posted on 09/18/2008 1:14:24 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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36% and 39% in a Dem state is not a good position to be in.

Neither is 46-48% as a Dem incumbent. That's the key here. Zimmer's an unknown. His numbers can be moved much easier than Lautenberg's.

As a reminder, New Jersey is the state that gave us this classic governor's race:

For incumbents, the magic number in polling is supposedly 50 percent - the idea being that undecided voters overwhelmingly break for the challenger on Election Day.

One classic case study of this phenomenon was in New Jersey in 1993, when Jim Florio led Christie Whitman in poll after poll - sometimes by double digits - from June all the way until November. But he never surpassed 49 percent - which is exactly what he ended up with on Election Day

http://www.observer.com/term/26715

82 posted on 09/18/2008 1:23:34 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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"Neither is 46-48% as a Dem incumbent. That's the key here. Zimmer's an unknown. His numbers can be moved much easier than Lautenberg's."

With 6 opponents, I'd rather have the 46-48% than 39%. Remember, again, Laut only needs a plurality to win. He doesn't magically go to a runoff if he gets below 50%.

Re: Florio

I didn't expect Florio to win reelection, positive numbers aside. He had a massive, ghastly massive backlash that led to gargantuan Republican legislative majorities in the '91 midterms. Whitman gave Bill Bradley a fright in '90, too, when he almost got dragged down with the hugely unpopular Flim Flam Florio. In '93, the good news was that Whitman won... and the bad news was that Whitman won (and promptly squandered all of the goodwill in the state entrusting the GOP with huge majorities). All of it totally gone.

Going back to the Senate race again, too many of our statewide candidacies in NJ are a lot like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. The media and the Dems play the role of Lucy, making us believe -- THIS TIME -- we're gonna kick the ball, we're gonna win -- only to have the ball yanked away at the last moment and are left laying in the dirt.

83 posted on 09/18/2008 1:37:20 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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I think the race is in play. The big task is to get Zimmer’s name I.D. up, which will cost a lot of money.


84 posted on 09/18/2008 3:58:32 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: impeachedrapist

Thanks.


85 posted on 09/18/2008 8:42:55 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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Keep the faith. I’m not a big fan of Zimmer but we need to keep the Senate close at all cost. We CAN NOT afford for the left to win a veto proof Congress people on the ground need to wake the hell up. Here in Virginia damn liberal Mark Warner is still pulling a significant number of otherwise loyal GOPers. What in the hell is wrong with Republicans in my state? It is like they’ve been brainwashed. I’m getting out again this weekend. Gilmore had a good debate with Warner and the press is being more even handed. Gilmore more needs to show movement and close the gap here in Virginia. If Warner is riding high come election day McCain may very well lose Virginia.


86 posted on 09/18/2008 8:50:32 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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Does Zimmer have any money? Is he on TV? That’s the way to win it, especially in NJ, Corzine proved that.


87 posted on 09/19/2008 4:49:59 AM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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Read the thread


88 posted on 09/19/2008 5:34:28 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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I’m not worried about McCain losing Virginia. I anticipate Gilmore will close the gap with Warner, but there are just so many crossover votes I can’t realistically see how the Pubbies hold this seat. I applaud and thank you for all your hard work!


89 posted on 09/19/2008 5:36:46 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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90 posted on 09/19/2008 3:49:07 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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91 posted on 09/26/2008 7:36:22 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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