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Russian strategic bombers patrol skies over eastern coast of South America
Interfax.com (excerpt) ^ | September 16, 2008

Posted on 09/16/2008 2:44:12 AM PDT by HAL9000

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MOSCOW. Sept 16 (Interfax-AVN) - Two Russian Tupolev Tu-160 strategic bombers have patrolled the eastern coast of South America, aide to Russian Air Force commander Col. Lieut. Vladimir Drik told Interfax-AVN.

"The aircraft took off from the Libertador military airfield in Venezuela at 4.30 p.m. Moscow time [on September 15]. They flew over neutral waters along the eastern coast of South America in the direction of Brazil. They landed at an airfield in Venezuela at 10 p.m.," Drik said.

The Alexander Molodchy and Vasily Senko bombers were in air for about six hours. The crewmembers practiced synchronization and various elements of air training, as well as increased their training level, Drik said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; brazil; communismkills; geopolitics; latinamerica; russia; southamerica; sovietreunion; tu160; tupolev; venezuela; wargames; windsofwar
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1 posted on 09/16/2008 2:44:12 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

Bombers patrol? Poor choice of words. Bombers visit?


2 posted on 09/16/2008 3:10:04 AM PDT by Theophilus (Abortion: 9/11 Every Single Day)
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To: HAL9000

Russia/Chavez’s gift to the Western Hemisphere. (Looks like One Happy Hemisphere has a problem. Somebody call GW and the CFR.)


3 posted on 09/16/2008 3:14:47 AM PDT by hershey
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To: HAL9000

Monroe Doctrine, anyone?


5 posted on 09/16/2008 3:36:10 AM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity... FREE LAZAMATAZ!!)
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To: HAL9000
Tupolev TU-160:

And, on board a TU-160:

"Russian President Vladimir Putin talks after arriving in Olenegorsk on board the Tupolev TU-160 strategic bomber ‘‘Pavel Taran on Tuesday. Putin flew in Russia’s most potent bomber and took part in the launch of cruise missile in the Arctic north, dusting off the military image he cultivated when he first came to power. — Reuters"

6 posted on 09/16/2008 3:39:05 AM PDT by BroJoeK (A little historical perspective....)
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To: HAL9000
We're supposed to be afraid of two unarmed Rooski bombers flying circles along the Venezuelan coast?

That's rich!

7 posted on 09/16/2008 3:42:53 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: BroJoeK

I never noticed the shark fins inboard of the wing pivot points. Antennae?


8 posted on 09/16/2008 3:56:28 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yossarian

I bet you $50 Obama doesnt know what the monroe doctrine is. He didnt even know that Russia has a veto on the security council.


9 posted on 09/16/2008 4:03:24 AM PDT by jerry557
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To: Yo-Yo

My guess is they deploy in flight to aid longitudinal stability and/or to clean up the airflow over the wing going back into the tailplanes.


10 posted on 09/16/2008 4:08:42 AM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

One article I read said they only have 16 of these bombers.


11 posted on 09/16/2008 4:22:59 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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That’s probably about right, and I wonder how many of them are airworthy at any given time, knowing how temperamental our own B-1’s are.


12 posted on 09/16/2008 4:34:16 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Probably just those 2.


13 posted on 09/16/2008 4:48:39 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: valkyry1
No, judging by the way they are faired into the wing, they don't deploy. They're fixed. Also, I don't see them on other Tu-160 photos, so they're not part of the original design.

However, you could be right in that they were added for directonal stability later on in the Tu-160's life.


14 posted on 09/16/2008 5:09:16 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

I just noticed those too. They are huge for antennas. I’m assuming that there were lateral stability issues and they got added to the design. They may also be there to create shock waves or rather make the overall supersonic flow less chaotic.

Really just guessing though.


15 posted on 09/16/2008 5:26:14 AM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: Yo-Yo

I note that the Russkies use the drogue and chute method for inflight refueling. Does anyone other than the USAF use the other method?


16 posted on 09/16/2008 6:44:03 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: SampleMan
Vortex generators, is my guess. Enhances lift by disturbing the laminar flow over the wing
17 posted on 09/16/2008 6:44:55 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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Perhaps, but they are huge for that. All of the vortex generators that I’ve ever seen (like on the A-4) are only inches long, as beyond that they are outside of laminar flow effect.


18 posted on 09/16/2008 7:06:11 AM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: LSUfan
AFAIK, the USAF is alone in their use of a flying boom. The rest of the world uses hose-and-drogue.

Flying Boom was originally to allow higher fuel flow rates to top off strategic bombers faster than able via hose-and-drogue (or probe-and-drogue if you are so inclined.)

The F-35 can be equipped either way, and someone pointed me to this study that suggests future USAF fighter aircraft, which cannot take on fuel as fast as a boom is able to deliver, should be equipped with probes instead, especially after the USAF tanker fleet is converted to a combination of hose and boom, ala KC-10, some KC-135R, and KC-X.

Especially with the modified KC-135Rs and the KC-X, two and three aircraft respectively can refuel simultaneously.

Makes sense to me, which is why it will never be adopted by the USAF.

19 posted on 09/16/2008 7:33:14 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: BroJoeK; valkyry1; Robe; SampleMan
Aha! The "sharkfins" are part of the swing wing's root at the trailing edge that flips up at full sweep. Never knew that before.

http://www.milavia.net/aircraft/tu-160/tu-160.htm

The variable-geometry wing has three positions. 20 degree sweep for landing, 35 degree for cruise and 65 degree sweep for high speed flight. The inner portion of the wing forms a vertical plane for directional stability when the wings are fully swept backwards. When the wing is swept forwards this portion lies flat to fill the gap between wing and fuselage and forms the most inner part of the flap.

Line drawing here but not posted because it is huge and loads very slowly. The line drawing shows full sweep and that portion of the swing wing root that folds upwards.

20 posted on 09/16/2008 12:17:03 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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