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Anglican Apology "Pointless" says Darwin Descendant
LifeSiteNews ^ | 9/15/08 | Hilary White

Posted on 09/15/2008 3:51:28 PM PDT by wagglebee

LONDON, September 15, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The great grandson of 19th century naturalist Charles Darwin, told media that he was "bemused" at an apology offered by a prominent Anglican cleric to his long-dead ancestor. Andrew Darwin, called "pointless" an article written by a prominent Anglican cleric that apologised for the 19th century Church's response to the publication of the Origin of Species, the book that began the debate over evolution.

"Why bother?" Darwin said, "When an apology is made after 200 years, it's not so much to right a wrong, but to make the person or organisation making the apology feel better."

The Rev. Dr. Malcolm Brown, the Church of England's director of mission and public affairs of the Archbishops' Council, wrote in an article to be posted on the Church's website, "Charles Darwin - 200 years from your birth (1809) the Church of England owes you an apology for misunderstanding you and, by getting our first reaction wrong, encouraging others to misunderstand you still."

Dr. Brown is reported to be the "inspiration" for a new page of the Church of England's website to promote Darwinian ideas that will be launched Monday.

In his article, Dr. Brown denigrated American Christians who hold a literal interpretation of the bible as historically ignorant and "noisy."

"A culture that doesn't have a great deal of historic understanding of the Christian faith can easily characterise all Christians as being like the most noisy ones," he wrote. Brown said the Church anticipated that there would be a "public interest" in a website on Darwinism, "particularly because of the rise of creationism in the US."

Dr. Brown continued, "People, and institutions, make mistakes and Christian people and Churches are no exception. When a big new idea emerges that changes the way people look at the world, it's easy to feel that every old idea, every certainty, is under attack and then to do battle against the new insights."

"We try to practise the old virtues of 'faith seeking understanding' and hope that makes some amends," Brown wrote to Darwin, who died 126 years ago.

A spokesman for the Church of England later distanced the Church from Dr. Brown's remarks, calling it a "personal view" and not an official apology by the Church.

Some critics have said that the article is merely an effort by the heavily left-leaning Church of England to distance itself from believing American Christians. In heavily secularised British society, anti-American sentiment is commonplace and much of it is focused on what is seen as Americans' overemphasis on religious belief.

An outraged Ann Widdecombe, MP and convert from Anglicanism to Catholicism, said of the Anglican apology, "It's absolutely ludicrous. Why don't we have the Italians apologising for Pontius Pilate? We've already apologised for slavery and for the Crusades. When is it all going to stop? It's insane and makes the Church of England look ridiculous."

Even the head of the fervently anti-Christian National Secular Society, Terry Sanderson, said, "It does seem rather crazy for an institution to address an apology to an individual so long after his death."

Christian Voice, a UK evangelical Christian lobbying organisation, responded with a tongue-in-cheek apology of their own addressed to Richard Dawkins, the Oxford professor best known as the world's most outspoken enemy of religious belief, who, they said, has been "spiritually dead for over sixty years."

Stephen Green, National Director of Christian Voice, wrote to Dr. Dawkins, the world's leading proponent of secular Darwinism and author of "The God Delusion", "We described you as an 'evangelical atheist' who looked 'malicious, loony, ill-informed and stupid in equal measure'. We pondered your 'peculiar combination of wickedness and madness' and asked, 'Has the evolutionary biologist lost the plot?'"

"We recognise now that your dependence on evolution is not science, or even bad science, but an irrational excuse to deny Almighty God. We see that your attempts to pour scorn on Christianity and Jesus Christ are the result of a sort of 'virus of the mind', put there by the father of lies," Mr. Green continued.

Charles Darwin, whose portrait appears on the Bank of England's ten-pound note, is a folk hero to secularists who have used his theories to "prove" the non-existence of God and the pointlessness of all religious belief.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglicanism; darwinism; moralabsolutes; prolife
Personally I have no interest in debating evolution vs. creationism (no amount of debate will change the truth); however, Darwinian eugenics has been responsible for well over ONE BILLION DEATHS in the last century.
1 posted on 09/15/2008 3:51:28 PM PDT by wagglebee
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“When an apology is made after 200 years, it's not so much to right a wrong, but to make the person or organisation making the apology feel better.”

Will someone please mail a copy of this to every elected politician in the United States? Either that or etch it over the entrance to Congress.

2 posted on 09/15/2008 3:53:08 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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"Why bother?" Darwin said, "When an apology is made after 200 years, it's not so much to right a wrong, but to make the person or organisation making the apology feel better."

Raucous round of applause, a Guinness, and a kitten to Mr. Darwin! Can I get his remark on a bumper sticker?

3 posted on 09/15/2008 3:55:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Even for a thin-skinned solipsistic narcissist, Obama seems a frightful po-faced pill." ~Mark Steyn)
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4 posted on 09/15/2008 3:57:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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5 posted on 09/15/2008 3:59:17 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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So does this mean that in 200 years the COE will apologize for The Archbishop of Canterbury’s calling for Sharia in Britain?


6 posted on 09/15/2008 4:04:41 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("Spare me all the phony talk about change." Senator Barack Obama)
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In 200 years, the Archbishop of Canterbury in Absentia, resident in San Francisco, will apologize to the Grand Mufti of London for the Church of England’s ever having existed in the Dar al-Islam.


7 posted on 09/15/2008 4:08:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Even for a thin-skinned solipsistic narcissist, Obama seems a frightful po-faced pill." ~Mark Steyn)
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8 posted on 09/15/2008 4:16:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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"Why bother?" Darwin said, "When an apology is made after 200 years, it's not so much to right a wrong, but to make the person or organisation making the apology feel better."

Apologies are not usually about righting a wrong. Ideally they are simply about asking for undeserved forgiveness for the one asking.

At worst they are on behalf of somebody associated with the asker, but which the asker really wishes to discredit. (a cynical political past-time).

But even 200 years later, they are not necessarily pointless if they sincerely fit in the first category.

9 posted on 09/15/2008 4:18:04 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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It’s rather unfair the Darwin has his name associated with such an evil philosophy. All he wanted to do was to try and explain how we got here and why we and other animals evolved. I don’t recall him ever advocating applying his theories to social engineers so that they could try and engineer the ‘perfect race’ through abortion, contraception and genocide. Other people did that....


10 posted on 09/15/2008 4:23:54 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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It’s rather unfair the Darwin has his name associated with such an evil philosophy. All he wanted to do was to try and explain how we got here and why we and other animals evolved. I don’t recall him ever advocating applying his theories to social engineers so that they could try and engineer the ‘perfect race’ through abortion, contraception and genocide. Other people did that....

Nonsense.

Charles Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton, combined the theories of Thomas Malthus and Darwin and came up with eugenics.

In "The Descent of Man" Darwin agreed with Galton's conclusions, but dismissed them as "utopian."

Galton formed and chaired the Eugenics Society (Charles Darwin's son Leonard would chair it on Galton's death) and eugenic theories became the darling of such monsters as Sanger, Hitler and a host of American racists.

11 posted on 09/15/2008 4:34:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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He can’t have been that bothered about creating a race of supermen when he married his own cousin.
Besides, having read the same wikipedia article you have just done, it didn’t say that Darwin agreed with Galton’s aims, all it said was that he agreed with his premise that certain characteristics were inherited, which with modern understanding of genetics, is undeniable fact. If you can show me were he himself actually advocated eugenics, as far as I can see, his dismissal of it as too ‘utopian’ tells me that he probably viewed the moral cost of implementing Galton’s theories on a societal level as too great to be practicable and that people (such as himself) would not be choosing their breeding partners based on how genetically superior they were...


12 posted on 09/15/2008 6:25:32 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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Darwin was very much associated with “social Darwinism.” His cousin was very much involved in the eugenics movement that was just beginning to ooze its puss when Darwin was rising to fame. Read G.K. Chesterton’s “Eugenics and Other Evils” for details.


13 posted on 09/15/2008 7:33:47 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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14 posted on 09/16/2008 6:10:36 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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