Saul Alinsky and DNC Corruption (Knowing your enemies is half the battle)

NewsMax.com. ^ | Jan. 7, 2003 | Diane Alden

[Bernard Marx]

This link tells the whole story about Obama, Hillary and Alinsky: SAUL ALINSKY

[sinanju]

Where’s my old “Young Pioneers” scarf? Right next to my Eton necktie, I guess..

[ETL]

From the Boston Globe, August 31, 2008:

[Saul Alinsky's] Son sees father's handiwork in [2008 democrat] convention

ALL THE elements were present: the individual stories told by real people of their situations and hardships, the packed-to-the rafters crowd, the crowd's chanting of key phrases and names, the action on the spot of texting and phoning to show instant support and commitment to jump into the political battle, the rallying selections of music, the setting of the agenda by the power people.

The Democratic National Convention had all the elements of the perfectly organized event, Saul Alinsky style. Barack Obama's training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness.

It is an amazingly powerful format, and the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen. Obama learned his lesson well.

I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.

L. DAVID ALINSKY
Medfield

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/08/31/son_sees_fathers_handiwork_in_convention/

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From Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."[2]

[2] Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm

[workerbee]

Am I imagining things, or did I read somewhere that Michelle Obama quoted this Rules for Radicals in her speech at the Dem coronation convention? Does anyone know if that's actually true?

[originalbuckeye]

Did you notice, at the 9/11 Forum, that Obama was asked if he supports giving the same benefits to Community Service as are given to our Military?? He said he didn't but, as we all know, for the Dems it's OK to lie to get the end result that you desire.

[wjcsux]

bump for later.

[ETL]

That is a great article. Tons of info. Thanks for the link.

Here it is again below:

Democrats’ Platform for Revolution
By John Perazzo
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, May 05, 2008
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=D6E27ECE-9798-4F01-A378-3F1405F69704

[SERKIT]

Alinsky or Barry were never up against a combat fighter pilot and naval aviator. As for Biden, Sarah is taking a quick refresher course on how to field dress an ass.

[ODDITHER]

Thanks -
Know your enemy and then destroy him.

[ODDITHER]

Thanks -
Know your enemy and then destroy him.

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Thanks for this - I didn’t know this.

[LenS]

The problem with Alinsky’s tactics is that they undermine the decorum that makes an Anglosphere nation work. You might win with such tactics, but upon winning, you’ve gained control of a society where dog eat dog is back in charge. And the odds are long that you will end up consumed in such a world. The fact that so many in the Democratic Party use these tactics has weakened them for rational debate and leaves them wide open for violent counterattacks when they’re opponents give up on debate and strike back.

[RKBA Democrat]

"After all Lucifer has a new agent of change and his name is Obama."

Interesting you mention Lucifer. The 1971 edition of "Rules for Radicals" has the following quote from Saul Alinsky in the preface:

Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins-or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer

-Saul Alinsky

[RKBA Democrat]

You might find this discussion of the philosophical mentor of a couple of our favorite politicians interesting.

[hellbender]

"Make the enemy live up to his/her own book of rules. You can kill them with this. They can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

The Republican Congress and President made it easy for the radicals by abandoning traditional Republican "rules" against fiscal restraint, new govt. programs, and political corruption.

[jan in Colorado]

This whole movement towards “Community Service” is dangerous...the leaders of it simply want to make our children tools - kinda like Hitler’s youth

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I was thinking the exact same thing!

[hellbender]

Great quote, which shows what Obama really means by "change."

They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future.

According to polls, most Americans have already reached this state; they have a vague belief that "the country is on the wrong course." Even many conservatives feel so frustrated by the betrayal of their values by Republicans that they are willing to adopt suicidal tactics like backing 3rd-party candidates.

[hellbender]

The radicals who now run the Demonrat Party are not in the least interested in “rational debate,” any more than Muslims are interested in religious tolerance and free choice. They want to deconstruct our society, then run the country as a one-party dictatorship, as Marxists always do.

[SierraWasp]

"bookmark"

Me too!!!

[PGalt]

OUTSTANDING post/thread. Thanks to every linker, researcher, educator. BUMP-TO-THE-TOP!

Do “independents” need more evidence of a parasitic, criminal philosophy?

Thanks to all truth-seeking, freedom-loving lurkers reading this thread.