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Rebel Republican congressman Dana Rohrabacher backs Russia over Georgia
The Telegraph ^ | 9/13/2008

Posted on 09/13/2008 2:37:04 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

A rebel US Republican congressman has sided with Russia in its invasion of and brief war with Georgia, putting himself at odds with the Bush administration and politicians of both parties.

"The Russians were right; we're wrong," Rep. Dana Rohrabacher said at a hearing of the House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee.

"The Georgians started it; the Russians ended it," he added.

Mr Rohrabacher claimed that unidentified intelligence sources had assured him that Georgia started the fighting that began on August 7 when Georgia's military tried to re-establish control over its breakaway, pro-Russian province of South Ossetia.

Russia joined the battle, brutally repelled the Georgian offensive and then pushed deep into Georgia proper, where many of its forces remain nearly a month after the battle ended.

Russia has been condemned by the Bush administration and other countries. Vice-president Dick Cheney visited Georgia and Ukraine, another former Soviet republic, early this month and called Russia's actions "an affront to civilized standards" and "completely unacceptable".

Both US presidential candidates, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, also have issued tough denunciations of Russia.

But Mr Rohrbacher insisted that Georgia was to blame: "The Georgians broke the truce, not the Russians, and no amount of talk of provocation and all this other stuff can alter that fact."

A know rebel, he has taken controversial stands and clashed with the Bush administration in the past.

His comments got little attention in the United States but have been played prominently on state-run Russian television bulletins and other media.

Mr Rohrabacher's Democratic opponent in November's elections, Debbie Cook, condemned his comments.

"Congressman Rohrabacher's statements about the situation in Georgia are unnecessary and continue his pattern of reckless comments," her campaign manager, Kevin Thurman, said.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 110th; congress; danarohrabacher; electioncongress; foreignpolicy; geopolitics; georgia; rohrabacher; southossetia
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To: bruinbirdman
"The Georgians started it; the Russians ended it," he added.

He speaks from deep ignorance on the issue. That is unfortunate.

21 posted on 09/13/2008 3:40:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: bruinbirdman

“unidentified intelligence sources”

FSB?.../just saying.


22 posted on 09/13/2008 3:52:05 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: bruinbirdman
I'm sorry but you have no business being in congress if you can't get something so fundamental about freedom and conquest right. This is wrong in so many ways there's no excuse for it whatsoever.
23 posted on 09/13/2008 3:59:09 PM PDT by DB
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To: rockinqsranch

I read it, but I am just a Freeper, so what do I know?


24 posted on 09/13/2008 4:22:08 PM PDT by quickquiver (No, means N O.)
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To: bruinbirdman
A rebel US Republican congressman has sided with Russia . . .
Mr Rohrabacher claimed that unidentified intelligence sources . . .
Russia joined the battle, brutally repelled the Georgian offensive . . .
Both US presidential candidates, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, also have issued tough denunciations of Russia.

So anyone -- especially a Congressman, more especially a Republican Congressman -- who disagrees with the accepted account of the events of last month must be a "rebel" or maybe a comsymp.

Well, I have not made up my mind who is at fault, but I will say that most here seem to have instinctively blamed the Russians, and that worries me. Especially worrisome is the idea that's gaining a foothold that Georgia is our "ally" in some undeclared war, and we need to protect its territorial integrity at all costs, even if it comes to war with Russia.

This idea runs counter to the policy that prevailed a scant decade ago when the Serbian province of Kosovo wanted to be independent from Belgrade. Then, a certain American general who shall remain unnamed convinced both Pres. Clinton and a Republican Congress (with considerable help from a conmpliant media) that Kosovo should be independent and that a NATO intervention was called for because of the impending genocide, and you know what happened next. Bombs over Belgrade. Bombs over the Chinese embassy. And through it all we took the side of the KLA, who were in league with the Taliban. Nice going, State Department.

It does not serve the American people for the US government to be taking sides in border disputes or secessionist movements in far-off countries that not one person in fifty could place on a map, let alone know anything about.

Rohrabacher may be right, he may be wrong, but he has every right to voice his opinion. Those calling for his scalp should refocus their efforts on politicians who do real harm by intentionally misleading the public.

25 posted on 09/13/2008 4:24:36 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: bruinbirdman
Rebel Republican congressman Dana Rohrabacher backs Russia over Georgia

Surely this must be the result of extreme sleep deprivation at home.
Those triplets must be on a tear and driving him crazy!

(Heck, my brother's single energizer-bunny daughter has just about
ruined his health...no matter how much he dotes on her!)
26 posted on 09/13/2008 4:32:22 PM PDT by VOA
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To: logician2u
So anyone -- especially a Congressman, more especially a Republican Congressman -- who disagrees with the accepted account of the events of last month must be a "rebel" or maybe a comsymp.

I would describe the ethnic Ossetians in South Ossetia who cleansed the ethnic Georgians from that area, terrorizing, killing and destroying ethnic Georgian villages, as rebels.

27 posted on 09/13/2008 4:38:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: cyberslave
This guy was nuts when I first met him in YAF forty years ago

I was in the group that wrote:

'Purging Pennsylvania, California too,
Steele, Rohrabacher, and Dave Walter too'

at the 1969 National Convention. I thought he had gotten his head straight when he was on the Reagan staff in 1976.

28 posted on 09/13/2008 4:55:25 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Dana is not a conservative, he’s a commieservative


29 posted on 09/13/2008 6:00:20 PM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: bruinbirdman

He’s wrong. The Georgians didn’t start it, and the Russians haven’t finished anything.


30 posted on 09/13/2008 8:52:46 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Two Kids' Dad

Sounds like he swallowed too much saltwater.


31 posted on 09/13/2008 9:39:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: logician2u
It does not serve the American people for the US government to be taking sides in border disputes or secessionist movements in far-off countries that not one person in fifty could place on a map, let alone know anything about.

Well, it certainly obvious that you just hate America and blame America first.

For the dense, that's sarcasm. I believe the Georgians started the fighting in this case.

Georgia has the one of the fastest rates of population decline. Why should we risk our people, treasure and a possible cold or hot war with Russia when the people of Georgia can't even be bothered to breed? By mid century, there won't be enough Georgians of military age to stop a boy scout troop from occupying the country.

32 posted on 09/14/2008 6:46:17 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Fools get what they deserve in the end. You are responsible for the government that enslaves you.)
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To: bruinbirdman

This is disgraceful. Rohrabacher is Wrong! I hope he was just misquoted.


33 posted on 09/14/2008 10:07:42 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-vs-barack-obama/)
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To: bruinbirdman
Some congress people just love terrorists types. They think that it makes them "edgy". Or maybe they have been watching to many bad movies and think that all bad guys are just misunderstood.

Rohrabacher has been one of this group for a long time. Why this would surprise anyone I do not know.

34 posted on 09/14/2008 10:15:09 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Just say No to Lawyers! Palin '08! (oh and McWhatshisname too. I guess))
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To: Hugin

And whence you know, what you are right? You there were not! You listen only to that that impose to you! My brother participated in this conflict, and I declare what exactly Georgia the first have entered armies in South Ossetia at night on August, 7th. Then there was a bombardment of Tskhinvali when many civilians, including Russian peacemakers were killed. And only 8 aug Russia has entered armies for protection of the citizens! Dana has studied all facts before to declare such, and me amazes that only one politician could tell the truth openly. I advise to you better to study events, before to speak that someone is mistaken.


35 posted on 09/14/2008 10:55:35 AM PDT by AlexRider
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To: AlexRider
Oh great, a Ruskie troll. You joined up just to spout your garbled Putin propaganda? Putieput better reconsider invading soverein neighbors, because come January there's going to be a new sheriff in town who isn't exactly fond of the KGB.
36 posted on 09/14/2008 12:02:21 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I was at the 1967 convention. YAFers spent too much time fighting each other rather than fighting the lefties. Hell, they were a lot easier than the SDS as I later found out on campus.

I guess that really explains Rohrabacher's positions. As long as he keeps on sending the lefities these little tid bits they'll leave him alone in his district.

37 posted on 09/20/2008 6:31:04 AM PDT by cyberslave (The time has come to talk of many things.)
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