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Six Points to Consider When Reading About Wasilla's Policy on Rape Kits
National Review ^ | September 11, 2008 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 09/12/2008 4:47:05 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

A few points to consider when you hear about the town of Wasilla, and its egregious former policy of charging rape victims for rape kits, a topic USA Today examined today.

1. It is indeed a terrible policy to charge a rape victim for the cost of collecting evidence to prosecute. But these charges occur, even in places where the law theoretically bans it. According to a 2008 U.S. News and World Report article, some Illinois rape victims are still being charged for the rape kits.

The state seemed to address this in a 2001 law, but it would seem that as usual, passing a law and getting a bureaucracy to comply are two different things.

2. Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella told USA Today in an e-mail that the governor "does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test." Her critics can legitimately ask why, as mayor, she didn’t overrule her police chief. But they cannot charge that she supported the policy. In fact, there is not yet any evidence that Palin was aware of this policy.

(Excerpt) Read more at campaignspot.nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: mccainpalin; palin; rapekits; wasilla
Since this is a new meme in the circulated anti-Palin smear e-mails, I thought this clarification might be useful.
1 posted on 09/12/2008 4:47:05 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I wonder if the MSM has not twisted this, and it is really the perpetrators, not the victims who pay for this.

That would seem fair to me.


2 posted on 09/12/2008 4:52:06 AM PDT by fredhead (Obama wants to kill babies and raise taxes. Palin wants to kill taxes and raise babies.)
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To: fredhead
-- I wonder if the MSM has not twisted this, and it is really the perpetrators, not the victims who pay for this. --

In some cases, the perp is unknown. many of these kits are completed "on speculation" that there will be a rape charge (e.g., allegations of a date rape incident), because the evidence is lost otherwise.

3 posted on 09/12/2008 4:59:57 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
some Illinois rape victims are still being charged for the rape kits

SENATOR BARRY'S STATE!!!

4 posted on 09/12/2008 5:05:25 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Cboldt
I don't have any horse in this race. But it seems to me that the collection of any evidence is the responsibility of the police. and any cost surely should not be put upon a victim.
5 posted on 09/12/2008 5:08:36 AM PDT by webrover
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Oh, for crying out loud. These people don’t know when to quit.

Let me get this right. Governor Palin is supporting rapists, now. Have I got that right?


6 posted on 09/12/2008 5:11:39 AM PDT by gridlock (Sarah Palin knows how to kick butt or bake cookies.... And she's all out of flour!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Well lets say I am shot. I go to the E.R. and they put me back together. They will charge for their services? Of course they will. It is what they went to school 25 years for.


7 posted on 09/12/2008 5:18:14 AM PDT by 70th Division (If we lose the Republic we have lost it all.)
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To: webrover
-- it seems to me that the collection of any evidence is the responsibility of the police. and any cost surely should not be put upon a victim. --

A significant number of kits are deployed without the victim making a complaint to the police. At any rate, I agree that victims of crime shouldn't bear the cost.

I haven't studied the issue in depth, but based on it popping up in this race, learned that the "victim pays" arrangement is not uncommon. I suppose a core issue is "at what point does the incident become 'rape'?"

8 posted on 09/12/2008 5:28:15 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: gridlock
Actual quotes from DU:

"Why is Palin pro-rape? There must be a Rape lobby in Juneau."

"I heard she did this so she could claim rape statistics went down while she was mayor."

I left out the expletives.
9 posted on 09/12/2008 5:28:32 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
the real truth is the last line:

"... there is not yet any evidence that Palin was aware of this policy."

10 posted on 09/12/2008 5:29:04 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: gridlock
Oops....the link didn't work, here it is again.

DU Thread

11 posted on 09/12/2008 5:30:09 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
“Since this is a new meme in the circulated anti-Palin smear e-mails, I thought this clarification might be useful. “

Wow another stupid smear that I hadn't heard before. The Dems keep digging the hole deeper.

12 posted on 09/12/2008 5:30:34 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Help fight the left's anointed candidate, contribute and work for McCain/Palin..)
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'Jane Doe Rape Kits' Going Nationwide - FoxNews - May 13, 2008

"Sometimes the issue of actually having to make a report to police can be a barrier to victims, and this will allow that barrier to cease, to allow the victim to think about it before deciding whether to talk to police," ...

13 posted on 09/12/2008 5:32:55 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ravingnutter
I left out the expletives.

I'm surprised you had anything left to quote.

Actually, though, it's the LEFT that's pro-rape. They'll do everything they can to make sure a 13 yr old girl impregnated by an adult can get an abortion in private without any investigation or reporting so that she can go back to her rapist to be victimized some more.

14 posted on 09/12/2008 5:36:00 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ravingnutter
"Why is Palin pro-rape? There must be a Rape lobby in Juneau."

?????? What the....?

There are no words to describe the idiocy from the left. All the words have been exhausted.

The complete absence of thought = any liberal.

15 posted on 09/12/2008 5:43:27 AM PDT by Ultimatum (As we speak, another liberal implodes.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

This makes you want to start your own smear, like:

Why is the man with the muslim faith a closet homosexual.


16 posted on 09/12/2008 6:05:41 AM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist radical Muslims in the WH)
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To: 70th Division

For those who have insurance (is that just a thousand or so? /sarc) wouldn’t medical insurance cover this cost? It is just the states’ way of trying to get others to kick in some of the cost. If the rape victim is shot or stabbed, isn’t she billed for the medical care, too?


17 posted on 09/12/2008 6:08:27 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: eccentric

My point exactly and I like the sarcasm. Of course you meant all the ILLEGAL uninsured. LOL


18 posted on 09/12/2008 6:15:07 AM PDT by 70th Division (If we lose the Republic we have lost it all.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

In retrospect, that sound bite about the difference between a mayor and a community activist was a big mistake — it leaves her stuck taking responsibility for everybody in the town’s government down to and including the City Hall janitor.


19 posted on 09/12/2008 11:24:43 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b

To be fair, I’m sure it wasn’t her idea to bash community activists. She was just reading the speech that was given her.


20 posted on 09/16/2008 9:54:59 AM PDT by Dick Holmes
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