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And Here It Is....McCain takes LEAD in latest Poll out of Michigan
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/IA_Michigan%20General%20Election%20Poll%209%2011%2008.pdf ^

Posted on 09/11/2008 1:55:34 PM PDT by lt.america

McCain takes lead in Michigan

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; electionpresident; mccain; mccainpalin; mi2008; michigan; poll; swingstates; tossups
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To: lt.america

Michigan should drop - once people there wake up and connect energy policy to their future livelihood.

Maybe the young are smart enough to get it.


81 posted on 09/11/2008 2:22:20 PM PDT by S.O.L.
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To: impeachedrapist

MI, but this particular poll shows the Obamessiah getting only 77% of the black vote. I just can’t see it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I can, I have been saying that black people can see through this fraud, some of them are going to conclude that pastor James David Manning is right and Obama is the worst thing that could happen to the black cause in the long run. I live in a part of South Carolina that is almost fifty percent black and not one black person has told me that they think Obama would be a good president. They used to praise Bill Clinton without end but they aren’t praising Obama that way. Most of them act as though they don’t even know there is an election coming up.


82 posted on 09/11/2008 2:23:55 PM PDT by RipSawyer (What's black and white and red all over? Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Those older demographics in Michigan reflect all the old obsolete Union thugs left over after they killed off the auto companies. Socialist thug OBama is right up their alley.

They won't vote for Bacrock. Trust me on that. Those democrats there won't vote for to use a term I can repeat, "those people."

83 posted on 09/11/2008 2:24:03 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Palin in 08)
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To: Brookhaven; Texas4ever

No offense but how large is the Hispanic population in Michigan? Seems to me to be equivalent to the Swedish vote in Texas.


84 posted on 09/11/2008 2:25:59 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: lt.america

This is all wonderful, and popcorn, too.

But...this support is a mile wide and an inch deep. MacPalin needs to grow roots now.

How? By getting away from the negative attacks and lessening the rancor and hitting ‘em on the ISSUES!

Mac needs to demonstrate where he is different from O’Bama and BUSH. He needs to a “features and benefits” value proposition. Show why his positions are better for each and every American than O’Bama’s by individualizing them.

Point by point, make the points of contention between him and the President abundantly clear.

And, he needs to let Gov. Palin sell herself and bond with the people.

There is a point in time at which the attacks will blowback, he really can’t afford to find that point.


85 posted on 09/11/2008 2:26:28 PM PDT by papasmurf (I ain't your Daddy's Conservative, OK?)
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To: lt.america

Too much cheating in Michigan. Between Detroit and the Union buds counting the votes, the GOP will lose by a slim margin in MI. They will wait until all districts are in and voila Detroit will come in with their results and put Bacrock over the top. Especially with a RAT governor. No way are they going to let the GOP win MI.

I think the same thing will happen in PA.


86 posted on 09/11/2008 2:26:50 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: impeachedrapist
Didn't say I did. What I do know is that the African-American voter population is not evenly distributed. Further, there are several places where that population's political ambitions are mediated throught he agency of an exceedingly corrupt political machine, e.g. Chicago, Detroit, New Jersey.

In fact, the percentage of the AA vote subject to corrupt political manipulation is far higher than the percentage of the white vote subject to the same problems.

The consequence is that all attempts to poll African-Americans invariably yield questionable results ~ and these polls are no exception to that rule.

As a better understanding of Obama develops now that he's facing real opponents for the first time, serious changes in the results should be noticed.

87 posted on 09/11/2008 2:27:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rdl6989

We need to keep playing like we’re 10 points down.

The economy’s hit hard in the Midwest, and Obama can and will take advantage of that.

Complacency = loss.


88 posted on 09/11/2008 2:30:42 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Old and Busted: Barack 0bama, New Hotness: Sarah Palin)
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To: lt.america

The real problem for Obummer is that 97% of the DemonRATS have decided leaving only 3% of them undecided. That means for him to win—barring a real gaff by the Republicans—he needs a lot of support from the Michigan Republicans (who won’t ever support him other than by staying home on election day) and the Michigan ndependents (many of whom were dissed by Obummer with his clinging to their God and their guns speech in San Francisco). And McCain has a Michigan weapon—Mitt Romney.


89 posted on 09/11/2008 2:31:22 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: muawiyah
As a better understanding of Obama develops now that he's facing real opponents for the first time, serious changes in the results should be noticed.

If so, then we should see it reflected in multiple polls across multiple locations.

90 posted on 09/11/2008 2:31:39 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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To: lt.america

Obama and his cult followers in the media are really starting to get females PO’d. They wont take this constant attacks on Palin and her family. And for the record men are reaching the boiling point.


91 posted on 09/11/2008 2:31:54 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: crusty old prospector

Hey crusty...EVERY VOTE COUNTS!!!


92 posted on 09/11/2008 2:32:12 PM PDT by Texas4ever (SIT DOWN JUNIOR :))
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To: impeachedrapist

“And McCain’s carrying Hispanics almost 2:1? I don’t think so.”


In states in which Hispanics are a very small minority (as in MI), it is not rare to see (i) Hispanics voting strongly Republican, as is the case in MD, and/or (ii) outliers due to the small sample size. 63% is 12/19, and there quite likely were only 19 Hispanic likely voters polled.

However, the black, 18-29 and female results are definitely out of whack. Another thing to consider is that there likely is a typo for Obama’s support among 30-44 and 45-64, since his total wouldn’t be 44% if he was really getting scores in the 50s with such groups-—given that the McCain
+ Obama percentages for those two age groups add up to 102% (!) and 99%, respectively, while among all age groups there are 3% for others and 8% undecided, I think that it’s likely that Obama’s percentage among 30-44 and 45-64 was actually 10% below what was reported.


93 posted on 09/11/2008 2:34:18 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: All

There is one conceivable way that this poll can make marginal sense.

First, the black samplings did not add to 100%. So it’s 77 of 93, not 77 of 100. Also . . . black women may have send a few percent across the aisle. They heard the “bro’s before ho’s” Obot chant, just like the PUMAs did.


94 posted on 09/11/2008 2:34:49 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Taiku

It surprised me, too, but not that much. Remember “grandma’s pills”?


95 posted on 09/11/2008 2:35:30 PM PDT by GVnana ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery.")
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To: bioprof
...but all other age groups go for Obama????? - Sad ole hippies?
96 posted on 09/11/2008 2:36:56 PM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (A country can survive its fools, but it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Texas4ever
So true. Just remember Florida in ‘00 and Ohio in ‘04 when we stole both of those states. At least that is what the media keeps telling me happened.
97 posted on 09/11/2008 2:37:48 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector; Texas4ever

“Seems to me to be equivalent to the Swedish vote in Texas.”


Aren’t Swedes a major force in Abilene? And isn’t ex-Congressman Charlie Stenholm (from the Abilene area) a Swede?

But, yes, there aren’t that many Hispanic likely voters in Michigan, and on an earlier post I speculated that McCain’s 63% came from getting 12 out of 19 Hispanics in the poll.


98 posted on 09/11/2008 2:38:14 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
I agree with you on that. These numbers are off. I can see McCain getting some of the non-college 18-29 year olds and at some schools like Hillsdale or Hope, but to get even 50%, he'd have to be either getting 55-60% in Kalamazoo, wininng Royal Oak, or running close to 40% in East Lansing or Ann Arbor. None of those seem likely to me. Ann Arbor will probably be 70-30% once again. I know. I live in one of the townships, but I have an Ann Arbor mailing address.

I do think we win Michigan in the end, but not with these polls numbers. Seniors will make the difference.

99 posted on 09/11/2008 2:40:39 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Palin in 08)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Hispanic for Mc—63% 0—37% OUCH!

He did promise them amnesty, after all.
100 posted on 09/11/2008 2:40:55 PM PDT by CottonBall
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