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He can’t win. He won’t win. It is over
The Collins Report ^ | September 11, 2008 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 09/11/2008 5:55:32 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

Since February I have been saying that Barack Obama would get crushed in this year’s presidential election. … The signs of trouble for the Democrats have always been there…

….Today it is no longer “wishful thinking” or “proof you have been smoking something” to say John McCain will crush Barack Obama.

..here are the numbers that say it is over..

To win Obama must get these numbers with these groups:

..women, he needs at least plus 7. He is down 12.

White males needs at least 36%. If he gets 30% he will be lucky

Catholics: needs 50%. He is down 59/36.

Evangelicals: needs 71%. He is running against an Evangelical and has nothing to offer these Christian voters.

Jewish vote: needs 80%. He is at 57%.

Black vote: needs 95%. Zogby says he has “lost support” among Black voters.

Hispanic vote: needs 65%. The only polls available show he is at 65% so that won’t help, it will only slow the bleeding.

Democrat base support: needs 92%. He is at 86%.

Independents: needs 49%. He is losing 52/37.

This one is over. On Monday September 29, 2008 at about 5 PM when the last weekend polls come in, the numbers will spell doom for the Democrats. On September 30, 2008 the McCain Palin campaign must plan on switching gears and start asking for votes to give them a Republican Congress. It could keep the margin down and keep us safe from the Democrats for another two years.

..there will only be four elected Democrats who will be happy on Nov. 5, the Clintons, George McGovern and Walter Mondale because Barack Obama will take them off the hook as having taken the worse beatings in history


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To: jmaroneps37

Coach’s grandma apparently never told him not to count his chickens until they’re hatched. I hope he is right. But this is far from over.


41 posted on 09/11/2008 6:13:18 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: IrishBrigade
...you may be correct, but victory is written with electoral votes, which pay little attention to percentages, being all or none, for each state...extremely dumb system, IMHO...

Yes, what were The Founders thinking???? C'mon!

42 posted on 09/11/2008 6:13:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: library user

Black does not mean stupid


43 posted on 09/11/2008 6:14:53 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Rumierules
That is correct. The only groups Obama is barely holding onto are blacks and Hispanics. How many of those will show up if he is going to get crushed? If you think the polls show the election as close, it doesn't explain Barry's bizzarely self destructive behavior. If he really thought he had a chance, he wouldn't be acting the way he does.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

44 posted on 09/11/2008 6:14:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jmaroneps37
I think that perhaps they might force Biden to step down. Probably due to “health” reasons. If that's the case, (I know it's long shot) does Hillary step in to “save” the party, or does Hillary sandbag for the next election.

The dims have finally figured out that the dynamic has changed, will they try a change of their own?

Just thinkin’...

45 posted on 09/11/2008 6:15:02 AM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: jmaroneps37

Well, I wonder how the polls will change when The ZERO dumps “Joey Lunch Pail” and puts Hillary on the ticket (or some other desperate move that the media would laud as a “master stroke”)?


46 posted on 09/11/2008 6:15:35 AM PDT by mattdono (Only Lot will be left.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I hate to count chickens before they are fully hatched because the left is a hateful thing that will not die no matter how many stakes are driven through its vapid heart. I said it from the beginning that McCain was going to a coronation not an election even without Sarah Palin the independents were going fall heavy for him. They almost always fall for the GOP because most aren’t liberals. Watching Obama fight it out with Hillary really sealed his doom, it highlighted his clear vulnerabilities and overwrought his image as an iconic figure.

The thing though isn’t that he was overwrought as much as when you looked under the cover you saw a man with a history that did not fit. The Great Oz was not so great nor so accomplished. The great Oz was essentially an empty suit with a big voice with art for delivering speeches. Obama has struck a wall like a jellyfish in a rocket but for those of us who looked at the reality saw the wall and saw Obama as the jellyfish.

Sometimes I think the political strategerists are just too close to the trees. They look at the most silly things and assume this is the perfect storm for liberals forgetting it helps to have a candidate running on issues that people really support. The left instead fools itself that America is just like them. They never stop to ask themselves whether the America that sees need for change means that it desires bigger more expansive more expensive government. They never stop to ask when they are exulting each other on how tolerant they are whether America wants to have their liberal social views shoved on and indoctrinated into their children. They never ask the hard questions of themselves because they can’t accept the answer.

The answer is that America still wants to win. America still wants traditional values of strong two parent man and woman families. That America doesn’t take pride in killing the unborn or the elderly. That America doesn’t see bigger government and higher taxes as a solution to the woes of the common man. That most Americans still want a job not a handout and as long as that is the case the left when they run empty suits built of pure liberalism as a frontal assault will find themselves left wanting on election day.

John McCain and Sarah Palin don’t need big words to be respected. They have proven themselves through the sheer substance of their lives.


47 posted on 09/11/2008 6:16:05 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: jmaroneps37
Black vote: needs 95%. Zogby says he has “lost support” among Black voters.

Wheres the source on that?

48 posted on 09/11/2008 6:16:25 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Thank God for imparting wisdom on the founders to implement the electoral college -

it isolates vote fraud.


49 posted on 09/11/2008 6:16:37 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

We will see a preview of this when Sarah is Vice President and therefore President of the Senate. Hillary will probably be majority leader but the Senate president sets the agenda.


50 posted on 09/11/2008 6:16:46 AM PDT by AMiller
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To: IrishBrigade

That “extremely dumb system” kept algore from office.


51 posted on 09/11/2008 6:17:22 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Indeed! Still fifty-four days to the election and anything can happen twixt now and then.


52 posted on 09/11/2008 6:18:03 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: jmaroneps37
Anyone else getting a strange vibe from the DIM camp about the possibility of Biden falling on his sword so Hillary can step in?
53 posted on 09/11/2008 6:19:15 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: jmaroneps37
Well the article makes a lot of sense except for the black voters. Obama isn't losing any of them unless he does something radical like dump Biden and put Shrillary on the ticket. That might lose him some black votes but will be more than offset by the women votes he will win back.

I believe that if the GOP had nominated a conservative to begin with, we wouldn't even be worrying about an Obama presidency right now. But that didn't happen and it's going to be a battle. Getting Sarah Palin on the ticket was a master stroke but it still doesn't completely wipe out the fact that we basically have a liberal at the top of the ticket. The fact that McCain is a war hero isn't much of a factor in this race. Bob Dole was a war hero too but he still got slaughtered at the polls by a known draft-dodger.

If not for Sarah Palin, Free Republic would have been as despondent as the DU is right now. Imagine how depressed we all would have been if it were Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman on the ticket.

So while I am now very optimistic that the GOP can pull out the election after all - but I'm not seeing a landslide here. There is much work to be done.

54 posted on 09/11/2008 6:19:19 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 95 days away from outliving Sam Sheppard)
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To: Rumierules

There is no way that any dhimmirat could get 71% of the evangelicals. Too many of them understand
don’t lie
don’t steal
don’t covet
don’t kill
all of which are staples of the dhimmirat platform.

That aside, I think he will not get very many of them at all, due to his supporters so viciously attacking an evangelical woman of character just because of who she is.


55 posted on 09/11/2008 6:19:26 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
If Senator McCain wins the election, and if he wins in a blowout, then Senator Clinton will be a shoo-in for the Democrat nomination in 2012.

Therefore, if the GOP is to win in 2012 under those circumstances, Senator McCain will have to (1) make good on his promise of putting Governor Palin in charge of energy independence and (2) Governor Palin would have to have some highly visible and quantifiable successes on that front.

Palin already beats Clinton on two basic points: i.e. she's also a woman and has a much more attractive personality and biography to boot.

Visible success in energy independence would beat Clinton arguments about experience and would trump Clinton, i.e. "Clinton's husband handed her carte blanche to reform health care and she failed. Palin earned the right to be energy czar through experience and succeeded."

56 posted on 09/11/2008 6:19:50 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Right now he has only 92%. No way Barry will get 95% and he'll probably go below 90% by the end of the month. This thread is worth making into a sticky to see if the author's predictions come true. Mods?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

57 posted on 09/11/2008 6:20:09 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jmaroneps37
Black vote: needs 95%. Zogby says he has “lost support” among Black voters.

Wheres the source on that?

58 posted on 09/11/2008 6:20:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: jmaroneps37

I have wondered. I have seen all those numbers about the way Mr. Collins has them here but the polls do not vary from the “statistical tie” that they have been reporting for months. Are we forgetting to count the Illegal-American vote? Is it expected to very much higher this year? Republicans never get much more than 0% of the Illegal-American vote. Same goes for that other minority, Dead-Americans. Are they expected to vote in significantly higher numbers this year? And what about Pet-Americans? Is Hussein pied piping them to the polls in record numbers?


59 posted on 09/11/2008 6:20:36 AM PDT by arthurus (Old age and guile beats youth and enthusiasm.)
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To: CodeToad
My brothers coworker who is black saw 0bama on TV and said "so what now, is he gonna sh!t rainbows".

I hope that Palin's Assembly of God denomination will pull some black voters as well.

Will a Christian vote for a closet Muslim or at the very least a follower of Black Liberation Theology over a candidate who believes the Bible and that Christians are supposed to be united in Christ?

60 posted on 09/11/2008 6:20:48 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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