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Dead Heat: John McCain, Barack Obama Even in Post-Convention Poll [ABC/WaPo Shocker]
ABC News ^ | September 8, 2008 | Gary Langer

Posted on 09/08/2008 3:01:59 PM PDT by Zakeet

White Women Shift to McCain as Republican Erodes Obama Lead on Change, Enthusiasm

John McCain's taken the better boost from the presidential nominating conventions, eroding Barack Obama's advantage on change, improving on enthusiasm, moving away from George W. Bush -- and advancing among white women with help from his surprise vice presidential pick.

Some of McCain's biggest gains in this ABC News/Washington Post poll are among white women, a group to which "hockey mom" Sarah Palin has notable appeal: Sixty-seven percent view her favorably and 58 percent say her selection makes them more confident in McCain's decision-making. Among those with children, Palin does better yet. And enthusiasm for McCain among his female supporters has soared.

White women have moved from 50-42 percent in Obama's favor before the conventions to 53-41 percent for McCain now, a 20-point shift in the margin that's one of the single biggest post-convention changes in voter preferences. The other, also to McCain's advantage, is in the battleground Midwest, where he's moved from a 19-point deficit to a 7-point edge.

Obama, for his part, shows little or no progress on his chief challenges -- the question of his experience, the definition of the change he'd bring about and his efforts to entice former Hillary Clinton supporters aboard. Obama continues to lead McCain by a wide margin in enthusiasm, but his advantage on some key issues has softened.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008election; 2008polls; 2008rncconvention; bounce; electionpresident; mccain; mccainpalin; polls
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Mark Halperin (Time Magazine) summarizes the results HERE. Among other things:

More good material in the original article.

1 posted on 09/08/2008 3:01:59 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
My guess it will get worse for the Dems.


2 posted on 09/08/2008 3:04:01 PM PDT by Perdogg (Maverick - Barracuda 2008)
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To: Zakeet

Today’s headlines “Dead Heat”

Soon they will be: “Dead Meat”


3 posted on 09/08/2008 3:04:53 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Zakeet
METHODOLOGY: This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone Sept. 5-7, 2008, among a random national sample of 1,133 adults, including an oversample of African Americans (weighted to their correct share of the national population), for a total of 211 black respondents. Results among the 961 registered voters have a 3-point error margin.

Uh huh. And no information on the Dem/Ind/Rep split...

4 posted on 09/08/2008 3:05:30 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Zakeet

This polling sample is 50% Democrats, 41% Republicans!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/postpoll_090808.html?hpid=topnews

NET LEANED PARTY:

Democrat Republican Independent Other No op.
9/7/08 RV 50 41 7 1 1


5 posted on 09/08/2008 3:05:44 PM PDT by Chet 99 (http://www.mccainpalinvictory2008.com/)
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To: Zakeet
Took a while to find that the actual numbers are McCain 49, Obambi 47.

ABC must have felt it was important to camouflage those numbers for some reason.

6 posted on 09/08/2008 3:05:52 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Zakeet

“””””White women have moved from 50-42 percent in Obama’s favor before the conventions to 53-41 percent for McCain now, a 20-point shift in the margin that’s one of the single biggest post-convention changes in voter preferences.””””””

A 20 point shift among white women is huge!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 09/08/2008 3:06:17 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Zakeet

Rasmussen battlegrounds are out.


8 posted on 09/08/2008 3:06:51 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: comebacknewt

ABC kind of buried the fact that McCain was actually up 2 points, not tied.

That was also the radio lead off I heard tonight coming home.

A “scant” 4 point gain for McCain.

All trends are favorable. And Huge.


9 posted on 09/08/2008 3:08:39 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I wonder if any of those were typical white women?


10 posted on 09/08/2008 3:09:00 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Jesse Jackson talks about neutering Obama, but Sarah Palin actually delivers.)
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To: Zakeet

All this...and the poll shows the race as only even? What, did they exclude Republicans from the poll?

In all seriousness, if you go read the actual write-up of the poll, it reveals that this is registered voters. It says in the fine print that McCain has a two point lead among likely voters — yet further reinforcing my suspicion that the polling sample is over-infested with Rat voters.


11 posted on 09/08/2008 3:09:11 PM PDT by kesg
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To: kesg

There are more registered Dems than Reps nation wide. That is why the polling numbers differ.


12 posted on 09/08/2008 3:11:41 PM PDT by mcjordansc
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To: Zakeet

13 posted on 09/08/2008 3:12:39 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Democrats are Intimidated by Strong Women.)
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To: Zakeet
White women have moved from 50-42 percent in Obama's favor before the conventions to 53-41 percent for McCain now, a 20-point shift in the margin that's one of the single biggest post-convention changes in voter preferences.

Kim Gandy must be slashing her wrists over this...

14 posted on 09/08/2008 3:12:50 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Zakeet

Now if we could only see some drift in the Congressional polls. Push the Dems on drilling and let’s see what happens.


15 posted on 09/08/2008 3:13:43 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Interesting Times
Uh huh. And no information on the Dem/Ind/Rep split...

Hmm...someone else noticed that too. But there is no way that McCain is leading by such margins among white women, Catholics, and Independents and not also be leading among likely voters by more than 2 points (that's what the fine print says in this poll -- 2 points). I don't know that he is leading among likely voters by 10 points, but some of the post-convention polling in places like Michigan suggest that he has a real lead right now of at least 5 points nationally.

16 posted on 09/08/2008 3:14:49 PM PDT by kesg
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To: Chet 99

Okay, I take back what I said except that my suspicion was correct: it’s a Rat infested poll all right: 50% Democrats, only 41% Republicans. Any poll at this point where the spread is more than 4-6 points (and shrinking fast) should be treated as highly suspect.


17 posted on 09/08/2008 3:16:30 PM PDT by kesg
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To: kesg

Link to the Rasmussen battlegrounds? I heard they were coming out at 6pm today.

Thanks...


18 posted on 09/08/2008 3:18:38 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: jveritas
White women have moved from 50-42 percent in Obama's favor before the conventions to 53-41 percent for McCain now, a 20-point shift in the margin that's one of the single biggest post-convention changes in voter preferences.

jveritas, I am beginning to believe that you are either a prophet or the son of a prophet. You were way, way, out in front of virtually everyone on the surge. And, you called this sooner than anyone else I have read. Take a bow!

19 posted on 09/08/2008 3:18:51 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Zakeet

With McCain with a large lead in white women, white catholics and white independents, where exactly is Obama managing to get the numbers to come up with a tie? Are we to believe that all of the sudden white men prefer him?

What is going on?


20 posted on 09/08/2008 3:18:56 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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