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Auto industry to press Congress for $50B in loans
Yahoo News ^ | Ken Thomas

Posted on 09/07/2008 8:54:28 PM PDT by Lorianne

WASHINGTON - Auto industry allies hope to secure up to $50 billion in government loans this month that would pay to modernize plants and help struggling car makers build more fuel-efficient vehicles.

With Congress returning this coming week from its summer break, the industry plans an aggressive lobbying campaign for the low-interest loans. The situation is growing dire after months of tumbling sales, high gasoline prices and consumers' abandoning profitable trucks and sport utility vehicles.

Lawmakers authorized $25 billion in loans in last year's energy bill to help the companies build fuel-efficient vehicles such as hybrids and electric vehicles. With credit tight, automakers and suppliers now want lawmakers to come up with the money for the program — and expand the pool of money available to $50 billion over three years.

Industry leaders have argued that the loan guarantees are not a government bailout because it would hasten production of fuel-efficient vehicles and reduce dependence on imported oil.

"This is not about benefiting Wall Street," said Ford Motor Co.'s President of the Americas Mark Fields, referencing recent federal support for the investment firm Bear Stearns and troubled mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. "This is benefiting Main Street, the working men and women. The auto industry is part of the backbone of the U.S. economy."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: govwatch; oinkoink; taxes; transportation
Is there any (expletive) business out there that doesn't have their snout at the trough?

I suppose they want the loans to built these new Cadillac 2009 Escalade Hybrids.

http://www.cadillac.com/escaladehybrid/

Oh yeah, that'll benifit 'working men and women' How about 'working men and women' buying a non-government subsized car?

1 posted on 09/07/2008 8:54:28 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

This is getting ridiculous.


2 posted on 09/07/2008 9:02:24 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: Lorianne
Ford has been the most skeptical of hybrid tech., and they also refuse to import their high mileage diesels from Europe. Most US focus groups still say they want “power” rather than mileage.

These loans don't have much to do with hybrid tech, with the possible exception of GM, who I think is really trying.

3 posted on 09/07/2008 9:03:21 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Lorianne

whatta laugh!

taxpayer monies for unions.

taxpayer monies for bad investments.

cerberus capital mgt bought chrysler from mercedes after they couldn’t make chrysler work. what’s that tell you?

taxpayers bailed chrysler and their unions out once before.


4 posted on 09/07/2008 9:06:28 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Lorianne

I’d have more sympathy and more interest in offering loan *guarantees* (which is what Chrysler got) to GM and Ford if they had coherent business and recovery plans. Chrysler had one before they ever went to the government. GM and Ford do not.


5 posted on 09/07/2008 9:06:32 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Lorianne

Hey GM, Ford & Chrysler: 1. Go bankrupt; 2. “Re-negotiate” your labour contracts to half what they are now; 3. Kill your Job Bank where you pay executives to, literally, do nothing; quit paying 100% of 1st dollar health costs. Call us in a couple of years. Sincere, the Taxpayers.


6 posted on 09/07/2008 9:07:47 PM PDT by MarkT
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To: MarkT

The Job Bank isn’t for execs, it’s for UAW members.


7 posted on 09/07/2008 9:08:21 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Lorianne

Is it because of the cars they are building, or because of their financing units getting back vehicles that are worth far less than what they calculated as a residual value?


8 posted on 09/07/2008 9:27:35 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Lorianne

If they can’t compete they shouldn’t be in business. They put themselves in this spot and were I in charge i’d tell ‘em that they can get themselves out of it or go out of business. We don’t need to throw money at every big company that goes under. Sadly I think the Rats in congress will give them a huge bailout and reward failure at our expense.

Its GM and Fords fault that they made bad products for decades that drove people into the arms of the Japanese. Those people are now loyal to Honda, Toyota, etc. GM and Ford build better cars now but they aren’t good enough to win enough of those folks back. Its also their fault that they put too many of their eggs in the big SUV and truck basket. I blame Ford especially for not adapting to higher fuel prices quicker. They have very well regarded small cars they sell in Europe. Those haven’t made it here while Honda, Nissan, and Toyota were very quick to start selling some of their smaller overseas models (Fit, Versa, etc) when gas prices went up. Add in poor management and a union problem and its easy to see why they are going under and hard to see why my money should bail them out.


9 posted on 09/07/2008 9:29:02 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Lorianne
that would pay to modernize plants and help struggling car makers build more fuel-efficient vehicles.

Mostly they're just going to blow it on pensions for long retired workers and subsidizing their finance units like GMAC, which is in the tank because of subprime mortgages. I doubt any of this will go towards actual cars.

10 posted on 09/07/2008 9:50:28 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Lorianne
A little news from the past. I grabbed the first news item on the search results. What if I went through and added up all that U.S. auto corporations have poured into China (FDI) plus all the technology and intellectual property that U.S. autos have handed over and continue to hand over to the Chi-coms? At least $50 billion. Not quite $50 billion?

"Free tradin'" away the ranch.

"Yo! Taxpayers, more money please! The corporations need it."

US$33.9 billion of FDI settle in China in first half year

General Motors executives announce earlier last month that their company would invest more than US$3 billion by 2007

11 posted on 09/07/2008 10:11:57 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Dump the Unions and we will think about it.


12 posted on 09/07/2008 10:12:51 PM PDT by cp124 (A Different America - Obama Bin Biden)
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To: Lorianne

The doors to the Treasury are wide open.


13 posted on 09/07/2008 10:23:03 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Spktyr

And the reason they can’t raise the money on wall street is??
yes, the question is rhetorical.


14 posted on 09/07/2008 10:31:07 PM PDT by genghis
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To: Lorianne

Between the airlines, car manf. and the loan mortgage companies it’s no surprise the country is $10 TRILLION IN DEBT. Holy Crap.


15 posted on 09/07/2008 11:03:51 PM PDT by CBF (It's the law stupid!)
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To: Lorianne

$50B is peanuts. They should ask for at least $100 Billion. At least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Gubmint isn’t saying no to anyone. BAILOUTS FOR ALL!

(Except the honest taxpayer, of course)


16 posted on 09/08/2008 6:01:43 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Spktyr

“I’d have more sympathy and more interest in offering loan *guarantees*”

Actually, that is what the automakers are pressing for, and what is at question here - guarantees, not loans. The reporting is just incredibly sloppy (surprised?).

I’d agree, though - I don’t see any coherent plan from GM. Ford, on the other hand, at least is trying, and the plan they’ve unveiled focusing on small cars and bringing over European models is what we’ve been asking for....


17 posted on 09/12/2008 10:01:31 AM PDT by eraser2005
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To: Lorianne

Maybe the auto industry to lobby to get rid of CAFE standards. That’s worth more than 50B dollars.


18 posted on 09/12/2008 10:04:02 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: eraser2005

Ford’s trying somewhat, but I’m not seeing coherency there. They bring us the Transit Connect, which nobody wants, instead of the Transit; they bring us the Fiesta instead of the Mondeo. They bring us the Focus Mk I with a facelift, but not the Mk II.

Ford’s got part of the idea, they’re bringing us some of their well regarded Euro cars... but they’re bringing us the WRONG ones again! (See: Merkur.)


19 posted on 09/12/2008 2:33:43 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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