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Warrants could lead to more FLDS charges
Deseret News ^ | unday, Sept. 7, 2008 | Ben Winslow

Posted on 09/07/2008 6:49:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2

ELDORADO, Texas — When a grand jury meets here later this month, criminal indictments could be handed down against more members of the Fundamentalist LDS Church.

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Some of that evidence has been used in child-custody cases over the hundreds of FLDS children taken into state protective custody during the raid. Texas Child Protective Services has said it has evidence of at least 10 underage marriages. A CPS caseworker testified during a court hearing last week that an investigation revealed "48 percent of the men at the ranch were involved in underage marriage practices."

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"Sheriff Doran advised affiant that Becky Musser has provided him with information regarding the FLDS on more than 100 occasions over the past four years, including as recently as April 8, 2008, and that, on each occasion, that information has proven to be reliable, true and correct," Wilson wrote in the probable cause statement.

Becky Musser is a sister of Elissa Wall, who was the star witness in Utah's case against Jeffs. Musser also testified at the trial and was married to Jeffs' father, Rulon, when she was a teenager.

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The FLDS Church and some of its members have filed legal challenges to have the search warrants and any evidence tossed. A hearing has been scheduled Oct. 1.

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cps; cpswatch; flds
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Some updated info, and interesting clues to the number of possible 'crimes'.

48% of the men, allegedly participated in the underage bride scheme.

1 posted on 09/07/2008 6:49:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Alice in Wonderland; Rutabega; deport; hocndoc; Saundra Duffy; patton; LeGrande

Interesting new info, and some upcoming dates on the lawsuit process.


2 posted on 09/07/2008 6:51:20 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Alice in Wonderland; hocndoc; deport

BTW, Judge Walther ruled that Jeff’s daughter is to keep Natalie Malonis as her attorney.


3 posted on 09/07/2008 6:52:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: UCANSEE2

Becky Musser . . . sounds like she might have been the sheriff’s ‘inside’ informant.


4 posted on 09/07/2008 6:57:54 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: greyfoxx39

The fat lady is STILL singing!


5 posted on 09/07/2008 6:58:02 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Sounds like the Sheriff had more than one ‘inside’ informant.


7 posted on 09/07/2008 7:00:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: UCANSEE2

Thank you for posting this story.
It gets tiring seeing posts defending (or at the very least advocating for) fldsers.


8 posted on 09/07/2008 7:06:57 PM PDT by svcw (http://baskettastic.com/)
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The warrants accuse Raymond Jessop, Leroy Jessop, Michael George Emack, Nathan Jessop and Jackson Jessop of fathering children with girls who were all about 16 years old.

Git a rope!

9 posted on 09/07/2008 7:09:52 PM PDT by TheDon
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Approximately 439 children were ultimately returned to their parents two months later when an Austin appeals court and the Texas Supreme Court ruled the state acted improperly and the children were not in immediate danger of abuse.

Hmmm... how many children were originally taken, including the adults originally included as children? 440?

10 posted on 09/07/2008 7:17:51 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: UCANSEE2; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; ...

Ping.


11 posted on 09/07/2008 7:35:42 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: UCANSEE2
That would be 12 out of 25, 24 out of 50, 48 out of 100, 96 out of 200, 192 out of 400, or 392 out of 800 ~ so how many "men" were there at the camp?

Notice how that 48% leads from a minimum count of 12 men to up to 392 participants in the game of debauching underage young girls.

12 posted on 09/07/2008 7:38:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Texas Child Protective Services has said it has evidence of at least 10 underage marriages.

Not to justify this conduct, but where is the equivalent indignation and parallel investigation into the thousands of pregnancies and births for underage, unwed mothers who end up on welfare and ADC and will not identify the men who fathered their babies?

This is certainly selective prosecution, and perhaps even persecution because of their race, religion and life style.

If the FLDS men were minorities and just hit the girls and run like an NBA team the government wouldn't be showing this kind of interest.

13 posted on 09/07/2008 7:44:26 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Alaskan landscape is littered with the bodies of those who have crossed Sarah Palin)
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To: muawiyah

But I thought we were told by very important Freepers that all these charges would be thrown out AND nothing happened anyway?


14 posted on 09/07/2008 7:45:54 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: FastCoyote
No idea if they were important, but they sure seemed sure the F(lds) had their hands on "the truth".

I saw that 48% figure and laughed myself halfway into unconsciousness. What a clever way of saying 12 of 'em are in the bag! (minimum).

15 posted on 09/07/2008 7:48:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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No doubt you forgot to notice Welfare Reform a decade ago. Those ladies want the money from the government, they gotta' give up the guys.

So, what were you saying?

16 posted on 09/07/2008 7:52:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: UCANSEE2

Here’s a link to some other articles about the last few days of hearings....... Look in the pale blue box on the left side...

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/sep/07/government-matters-flds-hearing-an-exercise-in/


17 posted on 09/07/2008 7:52:50 PM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: FastCoyote
Five months later, and now it seems the government may be about ready to focus on the real culprits at the farm. It's amazing how fast the government can work when the children are in danger. /s

Freepers have been pissed that the government focused on the children instead of the male adults. They are also pissed that a government that swore the children were in danger, still have not removed the MEN from the farm three months after the children were returned to it.

With a trumped up original excuse for a warrant, yes some Freepers have been pissed about abuse of due process and the lack of attention to Constitutional guarantees. That's no defense of the FLDS. It's a defense of due process and Constitutional guarantees, so they are there when you and I need them.

And frankly, it's an embarrassment that some Freepers still can't understand these concepts.

18 posted on 09/07/2008 8:21:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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To: Iron Munro

“Not to justify this conduct, but where is the equivalent indignation and parallel investigation into the thousands of pregnancies and births for underage, unwed mothers who end up on welfare and ADC and will not identify the men who fathered their babies?”

Where is the indignation? I think most here are against sex with minors, no matter where it occurs.

Where is the parallel investigation? Cases where a complaint is filed, are investigated. As for being parallel, there are other investigations into ‘religious cults’ and there have been at least two other ‘raids’ with arrests, in Texas.


“This is certainly selective prosecution, and perhaps even persecution because of their race, religion and life style.”

Not race, not religion, but a life style that includes illegal activities, under the guise of religion.


“If the FLDS men were minorities and just hit the girls and run like an NBA team the government wouldn’t be showing this kind of interest.”

Many of the FLDS men did ‘hit’ and ‘run’. As soon as the cops showed up.


19 posted on 09/07/2008 8:32:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: TheDon

I don’t know where you have been, but that information has been available for a while now.

All were ‘returned’ to their legal (female, mostly) guardian or parent, except for one.

About half still remain under CPS supervision.

But, your math skills are impressive.

: )


20 posted on 09/07/2008 8:36:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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