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Watch for wrecking ball, Kaleefornya
Santa Maria Times ^ | August 17, 2008 | Randy Alcorn

Posted on 09/07/2008 3:27:51 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: Windflier

I’ve heard good things about north-east Texas (DFW area and north/west of there). Can’t speak to exactly where you are but given my living in liberal, expensive places the last 8 years Texas is sounding mighty attractive for my next career move.


21 posted on 09/07/2008 5:22:46 PM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: Lorianne
Why doesn't he use this method?


22 posted on 09/07/2008 5:29:39 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Lorianne
The liberals in CA are leading the state down a road from which there is no return and bankruptcy is the final result. Watch closely, because the federal gov’t is doing the same thing, only using a different mechanism.
23 posted on 09/07/2008 5:35:05 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Lorianne

The 2005 bankruptcy reform had revisions for government bankruptcies. Seems california will be the first to use it.


24 posted on 09/07/2008 5:49:25 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MIT-Elephant

I’m in Collin County, which borders Dallas County to the north. There’s only one county separating Collin County from the state of Oklahoma.

I’ve gotten a pretty good feel for the outlying areas of Dallas, and I’m sure that North-East Texas has got to be one of the best areas of the country to live in, in the present day. I can just about guarantee you that it doesn’t get more down-to-earth American than that.

But, you’d better be prepared to make a living in a tough economy out there. Most city folks would be up sh*t creek without a paddle in that corner of Texas.

If you want less expensive, more conservative, more patriotic, more common-sense, more honesty, more true grit American, then come to Texas. You won’t be sorry (unless you move into the inner city).

Collin County, where I live, is the fastest growing county in the country. I think I read somewhere that four out of the ten fastest growing counties in the country are in Texas.

There is good reason for that. You would not believe what you can buy for a couple hundred thousand out here. Double that (which is about average for a three bedroom house in LA) and you can have a mansion or a ranch.


25 posted on 09/07/2008 5:53:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Lorianne
California revenue is up 40% since the Girly-Man took office.

If he had compromised with Democrats and demanded that spending "only" be increased 20%, California would be on the way to recovery. But that would require leadership and fiscal responsibility which the Girly-Man and Democrats want no part of.

So now the Girly-Man is instead demanding that Republicans “compromise” and raise taxes.

I hope California Republicans hang tough for however long it takes to get spending cuts. I'd also love to see another “Total Recall” to remove Arnold in California.

Good luck to California!

26 posted on 09/07/2008 6:00:06 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Windflier

I am a native Californian. Worse, I am a native San Franciscan and just left there after returning to live in SF for 12 years. The State is an unholy mess and not salvagable. If we broke the state into manageable pieces and started over, we just MIGHT be able to save it.


27 posted on 09/07/2008 6:31:17 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Melchior

The day I retire. The VERY DAY I retire, I’m going to Virginia, unless the Beltway liberals have done extensive damage to the Commonwealth by then...


28 posted on 09/07/2008 7:00:42 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Windflier

Fighting is great, but you have to have tools to fight with. Republicans are fleeing the state of California and taking their money with them, while the liberal nutcases move in from other states, and the rest is from immigrants from other nations that either don’t know the freedoms we lost here, or are just grateful that California is better than where they left.

The registered Democrat numbers are 4 Dems for every 3 Republicans and the Democrat registrations are still going up faster than Republican registrations, due to influx of said other state liberals and other nation immigrants.

How do you fight that politically? You could fight it in the schools, if there wasn’t a Socialist Utopian leadership entrenched in the schools.

I don’t see how to fight this. It is a losing battle. My only solution is to move and let the California rot fester. Let them lie in the soiled bed they made. I don’t see how to fight this? Just scream and rant and rave? That doesn’t get rid of Feinstein, Boxer or Pelosi. The liberals here just keep re-electing their kind. I don’t see how to “stay and fight.” I’m not seeing it...

Jim Rob has this website so he is fighting the battle hard and I think this website is wonderful at fighting the national culture war. It helps fight the California battle, but since this site was created, what large political battles have been won in California? I don’t know. I mean, if it got McClintock elected governor, then I would say we won a fight. But almost every statewide office outside of legislative is held by a damn Democrat and that isn’t changing. The House and Senate are massively Democratic and it won’t be long before their majorities are veto proof.

The die appears to be cast to me. Others better than me may win the fight because I can’t envision a victory here. I can’t see it. What am I missing?

Maybe a future generation will become enraged at being lied to and will become Conservative and throw the bums out. Maybe immigrants will wake up and become Conservative. Not in my lifetime. I can only hope, one day...


29 posted on 09/07/2008 7:25:41 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
You can go ahead and blame the public unions but then you are going to have to explain why Idaho’s and Washington’s and Wyoming’s and Oklahoma’s public unions haven’t ruined the budgets of those states the way public unions have ruined California’s budget?

I did not ascribe all of California's budget problems to the public employee unions. Illegals, greens, and wild spending habits are significant problems also. In other states, public employee unions may not have the influence that they have in California. The experience of other states does not mean that California's public employee unions are not part of the budget problem. Many states are heading for deep budget problems because of public employee pensions. Union lobbying has prevented pension reform in California.

Unions are legally protected labor cartels with two goals: control the supply and price of labor. Unions crush competition through the political process. Public employee unions have no counter weight. In the private sector, companies can fail and move jobs. In the public sector, these normal restraints do not apply. Unions forcibly extract dues and use a substantial part of dues as well as in kind donations to influence the political process. In aqddition, public employees have civil service protections. Thus, collective bargaining rights should not be granted to public employees.

30 posted on 09/07/2008 7:31:59 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Republicans are fleeing the state of California and taking their money with them, while the liberal nutcases move in from other states...

(even longer sigh.........)

Yes, I'm all too aware of those two facts.

It's a fact that California is experiencing a net loss of native-born American citizens every year, even though their population is rising. There's no question as to what's causing that to happen. I believe that Victor Davis Hanson's book, "Mexifornia" may well be prophetic.

That fact will change the social dynamics of California beyond the point of redemption in the decades to come, if something doesn't cause it to shift or thrust toward an American identity. The repercussions of California becoming a de facto state of Mexico are nearly too serious to imagine. I really don't think that the people of this great country will allow Mexico to take California from us without a fight, even if a secessionist movement springs up there, which is likely.

To your second point, I recently read an article which stated that, of CEOs who are looking to re-locate their businesses to a new state, California ranks dead last among the 50 states. The reasons for that are pretty obvious to you, me, and everyone else reading this. That bodes ill for the future economy of California. Those people who are choosing to re-locate to California cannot possibly be doing so because California is a more attractive place to do business, or to buy a home, or to find a lower cost of living. So, just who is re-locating there? Unfortunately, it's the wagon riders, not the wagon pullers of the culture.

And so the state merrily continues down its dwindling spiral.

I can only hope that enough patriotic American hold-outs remain there, so that when the times are right, they can lead the charge to take the great state of California back from the horde. When that time comes, if I am still able, I will be there with them.

31 posted on 09/07/2008 8:14:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

We in Fresno will only take the Bay Area if you deport all the lefties to one of the other states.


32 posted on 09/07/2008 8:26:03 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
I am a native Californian. Worse, I am a native San Franciscan and just left there after returning to live in SF for 12 years. The State is an unholy mess and not salvagable.

Never say never. Just two weeks ago, we didn't think we had a chance of keeping the White House, and were making preparations for a probable Marxist takeover of our country.

I think that Sarah Palin has given voice to a ten billion megaton force of pent up frustration among good and honest Americans. By standing up and simply saying what we've been thinking, she has unleashed a mighty juggernaut that will not be silenced any longer.

There are major, tectonic shifts about to occur in this country, and the salvage of California, one of our most important states will surely figure large in that change.

For now, just keep the faith, and pass the ammunition.

33 posted on 09/07/2008 8:28:15 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Brilliant

Actually, the four measures he proposed made sense and I voted for all of them. Unfortunately, many of my fellow California citizens are morons and they all went down in defeat.


34 posted on 09/08/2008 2:53:30 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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