Posted on 09/07/2008 9:03:43 AM PDT by hecht
Was young Obama Indonesian citizen? Document, travel suggest 'Barry Soetero' member of world's largest Muslim country 8:18 pm Eastern By Aaron Klein © 2008 WorldNetDaily Indonesian school registration for "Barry Soetoro" (AP photo) JERUSALEM Was Sen. Barack Obama a citizen of Indonesia at any point in his life? That question has been circulating on the blogosphere with increased fury the past few days, since a photograph emerged of Obama's school registration papers as a child in Indonesia the world's most populous Muslim nation showing the presidential candidate listed as a "Muslim" with "Indonesian" citizenship. An investigation into Indonesian citizenship law and a review of Obama's biography and travels suggest the Illinois senator at one point may have been a citizen of Indonesia. That would not necessarily disqualify Obama to run for president, but it could raise loyalty concerns. A 2007 Associated Press photograph taken by Tatan Syuflana, an Indonesian AP reporter and photographer, surfaced last week on the Daylife.com photographic website showing an image of Obama's registration card at Indonesia's Fransiskus Assisi school, a Catholic institution. In the picture, Obama is registered under the name Barry Soetoro by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. The school card lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii. His religion is listed as Muslim. Jack Stokes, manager of media relations for the AP, confirmed to WND the picture is indeed an AP photo. After attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama later was enrolled at SDN Menteng 1, an Indonesian public school. Obama's campaign did not return repeated WND phone calls and e-mail queries the past week asking for a clarification regarding the school documentation listing the presidential candidate's citizenship as Indonesian. Obama spokesmen have stated the candidate is a natural-born citizen
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More importantly, hussein is an america-hating racist muslim with direct ties to several members of the mass-murdering crowd. He is unfit for citizenship on this basis alone.
So why doesn’t CAIR take a stand. It’s OK for Muslims to convert away from Islam or we stand by our religious teachings that those who convert away from Islam should be murdered.
For persons born on or after November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true:[4]
How does that apply to Obama since he was born on Aug. 4, 1961?
The section you are quoting applies to someone born abroad and if he was born in HI he wasn’t born abroad but on US soil.
http://usimmigration.visapro.com/USA-Citizenship-Services.asp#Birth
II. Born on U.S. Soil
Children born on U.S. soil automatically acquire American citizenship for life. The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees USA citizenship at birth to almost all individuals born in the U.S. or in U.S. jurisdictions, according to the principle of Jus Soli.
I’m like a lot of folks, a nominal Christian because my family was traditionally Christian and I was brought up to go to Christian churches and celebrate Christian holidays.
Even if Sorotero was an indifferent Muslim, I’m betting Barry would have absorbed at least the same type of grounding in the Muslim faith.
So what? Why not explain it—”I was raised as a Muslim but later chose Christianity out of conviction”—and get it out of the way?
they’ll probably claim a ‘hudna’ (spelling may be wrong) where muslims can lie to infidels to further their own agenda.
“Beyond a forged document (birth certificate), there is NO PROOF that barry was born in Hawaii.”
I’m aware of that but,,,, here is another early document, from Indonesia, that states he was born in the US! Personally, I would have liked it to be found he was born in Kenya, but, this document tends to disprove that.
Read post #31
There is a school of thought around here that BO won’t release his transcripts because he might have gotten into either Columbia and/or Harvard Law School on Affirmative Action with no admissions requirements to be met.
it would be great if they did! if they did, then the largest Muslim organization in the USA would be saying Obama IS MUSLIM
No one has ever told us why Obama traveled to Pakistan. Why?
Being President, or even a Senator, is a difficult enough job with about 250,000+ crazoids already on the Secret Service "watch list".
No one would wish to add aother billion people to the list.
You are not talking about another denomination of Pentecostalism here!
If you take a really good luck at his mother's genealogy you will find some folks in there who were exceedingly influential in early New England and New York (and some of them were also very wealthy).
He may well have been a legacy.
i can believe most American Moslems aren’t all that fired up... does CAIR represent most American Moslems? who does CAIR represent? WHERE DOES CAIR STAND on this issue?
The overwhelming majority of Moslems live in dictatorships. There are no "normal" Moslem societies or nations.
The guys at CAIR are simply hired hands ~ nothing more.
The stated reason, I believe, was to spend three weeks vacation with one of his former college roommates.
But as so many people, especially moderate Muslims, tell us, it is only a minority of Muslims, perhaps only 10% that are activist supporters of the fanatical jihadists.
That statistic comforts me a lot. It means only 100 million people are willing to either kill me or enslave me.
Of those who immigrate, I'd say that 100% of them are pret' near their home societies' version of a mind-numbed, knee-jerk, robot-like screaming Liberal ~ just so you can get a feel of what we are dealing with here when we speak of "moderates" in any Moslem society.
Moslems who live in Democracies are not emigrating to other Islamic societies in great numbers BTW, so they do understand the difference. The flow of people is in only one direction.
Manchurian canidate??
Wrong! You forfeit US Citizenship when you pledge citizenship to another country!
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