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Hurricane Ike Live Thread
NOAA/NHC ^ | 7 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/07/2008 8:37:37 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Hurricane Ike is the fifth tropical cyclone of the 2008 hurricane season to threaten U.S. Gulf Coast states.

Reports from Turks & Caicos Islands describe 80 per cent of homes damaged or destroyed. On Sunday, Hurricane Ike's position just north of Hispanola was hampering relief efforts for devastation incurred by Hurricane Gustav and Tropical Storm Fay. The death toll in Haiti from Gustav reached 200 people.

Florida Governor Charlie Crist held a press conference Sunday morning shortly after a Hurricane Watch was issued for the Florida Keys.

Public Advisory Updated every 3 hours

Discussion Updated every 6 hours

Buoy data:

Florida & Eastern Gulf of Mexico

Western Gulf of Mexico

West Caribbean

Forecast Models

South FL Radar Loop
FL Keys Radar Loop
Cuba Radar Warning: site gets overloaded
FL Long Range Radar Image

Ike
Single Image Image Loop
Lat/Lon No Lat/Lon Short Long
Visible Visible Visible Visible
Shortwave Shortwave Shortwave Shortwave
Water Vapor Water Vapor Water Vapor Water Vapor
Infrared Channel 4 Enhancements
None None None None
AVN AVN AVN AVN
Dvorak Dvorak Dvorak Dvorak
JSL JSL JSL JSL
RGB RGB RGB RGB
Funktop Funktop Funktop Funktop
Rainbow Rainbow Rainbow Rainbow

Additional Resources:

Navy Tropical Cyclone
Storm Pulse Very cool site--scroll down for Ike

KeyNews.com Key West News
Miami Herald
NOLA.com
KPLC-tv Lake Charles News
WEAR-tv Pensacola FL
TBO.com Tampa Bay Online
KHOU Houston
WKRG-tv Mobile-Pensacola

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible


TOPICS: Cuba; Front Page News; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: florida; hurricane; ike; tropical; weather
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To: CindyDawg

Before Katrina, the media would always worry about New Orleans, and after Katrina, the media worries about New Orleans - it’s a pretty long standing standard in the media to point out the weakest city in the region for a hurricane hit.

I mean, when you get down to it, New Orleans was barely brushed by Katrina - those who took the brunt of the storm were nearly wiped out. So, yeah, the media will continue to point towards New Orleans anytime it’s within the possible track cone. It’s just what they’ve always done.


361 posted on 09/08/2008 9:59:57 AM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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pick up where I left off


362 posted on 09/08/2008 10:02:23 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: rodguy911
Looks like this thing is going over the Caribbean sea for quite a while any chances it will intensify?

Without a shift in weather patterns presently projected, yes, Ike will re-intensify greatly once it is back over water and likely will enter the Gulf of Mexico after it's done munching on Cuba.

A category 3 landfall is expected, unless Ike swings well left of guidance track and goes into the Yucatan Peninsula.

363 posted on 09/08/2008 10:02:37 AM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: kingu

I still can’t believe the presentation on Cuban radar, visible sat, and water vapor - Ike ran over Cuba like an SUV runs over a parking lot speed bump. Yeah, it felt it, but it doesn’t mean it’s slowing down much. Absolutely amazing! I hope the rightward shift in track is right, at least at Cuba, as that’ll help weaken Ike, but it’s got such a tight center of circulation, it’s just.. Well, breathtaking. I really hope that everyone in Cuba got out of it’s way, as there’s likely not a whole heck of a lot that’s standing up that isn’t a /very/ well built structure.


364 posted on 09/08/2008 10:06:42 AM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: dfwgator
The irony is that the 1900 storm is referred to as “Isaac’s Storm.” Ike is short for Isaac. (Cue scary music)

we're doomed....

Earlier I responded to the poster who commented that we would see if the seawall does what it was intended to. What we will really see is if the effort to raise the eastern part of the island 12 feet will do what it was intended to do.

365 posted on 09/08/2008 10:06:59 AM PDT by jdub
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To: jdub
Here's a copy of the storm track for that one that I found.

Here's the weatherunderground image.

There's some variation in storm track for the beginning of it, but from this point on, it looks pretty close. And the Gulf is still very warm. Gustav gained a lot more strength than expected when it hit the Gulf. I haven't looked at yet whether conditions will be right besides the water temp.

366 posted on 09/08/2008 10:11:26 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?52 — This is an animation of the Cuban radar images as Ike came to and over Cuba for those who have some interest in watching.


367 posted on 09/08/2008 10:13:57 AM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: metmom; jdub
The first image, the little one, is the 1900 one.

Interestingly, there was another one that hit in 1915 and followed pretty much the same storm track.

Here's the 1915 one...

I got the info from wikipedia for anyone who wants to check. There's a lot if you google Galveston hurricane.

368 posted on 09/08/2008 10:17:13 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mewzilla

Yes, I was dumbstruck when I saw the Cuba video clip on local early news this morning. This storm is affecting every inch of Cuba. I wonder what the Cuban government did with all the tourists.


369 posted on 09/08/2008 10:17:32 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: jdub

It’ll also be interesting to see if Ike hooks around as sharply as the two Galveston hurricanes once it makes landfall.


370 posted on 09/08/2008 10:20:01 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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371 posted on 09/08/2008 10:25:05 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: jpsb

Powerful Hurricane Ike to Miss Fla. Keys; Still a Threat to Gulf

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372 posted on 09/08/2008 10:25:24 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (DRILL HERE-DRILL NOW-PAY LESS)
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To: rodguy911
Will it intensify after Cuba - Yes. How much? Well, I'm just a reader of this stuff, and there's so much I don't comprehend about the underlying science (I do understand models and politics, though...) ... so ...

Let's put the NHC current intensity guess (which incorporates many models including GFDL) and SHIPS side by side - and realize that though SHIPS has been the premier intensity model in the past, for Ike it has not done well at all beyond 48 hours:

(hours from now)       now   24   48   72   96  120
NWC official (11AM)     85   75   80   95  100  100
SHIPS latest (7AM)      95   83   81   76   70   56

NWC has put all their eggs in the GFDL basket, for sure, as it is the only decent intensity model other than SHIPS, as I understand. I don't blame them. SHIPS has not done well - but now at least it still has Ike a hurricane 3 days out - maybe it is going to get back on track.

It is hard for me to imagine that Ike will NOT intensify after it shakes off Cuba, given my rudimentary understanding. It's likely to be Cat.2 two to three days out, and after that, I wouldn't hazard a guess beyond that, though NWC has it getting into Cat.3 - - It is important to realize that by then, it is still very far from a US landfall.

373 posted on 09/08/2008 10:27:56 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: rodguy911

Hurricane Ike has emerged into the Caribbean Sea. SST are hot.


374 posted on 09/08/2008 10:29:25 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: metmom

We’ll have to see if Ike drops to a Cat 1 by 8pm tonight as that track forecast shows. A little later, probably. I’m showing about 340 miles before it makes landfall on the western part of Cuba.


375 posted on 09/08/2008 10:39:24 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: NautiNurse

Yes - I am really surprised at the way they are knocking down the intensity ... I hope that is right, though.

As for path right now, Ike looks like its next target is to put its entire eye over the western part of Cuba but miss the Yucatan.


376 posted on 09/08/2008 10:46:44 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

Just moving the cursor around Google Earth there seem to be few elevations in that area of Cuba above 300 feet. Heck, some neighborhoods near me have that much elevation change. But we know what happened to Gustav there.


377 posted on 09/08/2008 10:55:37 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: NautiNurse; eastforker
I've not seen a straighter line to Houston than the latest track. Where is 'eastforker'.

Evacuate Houston" Oh boy!!

378 posted on 09/08/2008 10:56:05 AM PDT by blam
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To: mewzilla
Our US Mens Soccer National Team was there yesterday for a historic match in Havana. It rained cats and DOGS. The stadium lights even went out toward the end. The US embargo meant there were almost no fans for them, but some showed up wearing sunglasses and US flag bandannas covering their faces (to avoid being recognized). Hope they got out okay; I'm sure they did.

The greatest thing was hearing the Star Spangled Banner played there on Cuban soil. That in itself was rather unusual.

379 posted on 09/08/2008 11:00:22 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
The greatest thing was hearing the Star Spangled Banner played there on Cuban soil. That in itself was rather unusual.

And best of all, we beat them on their own soil. (Not that Cuba is good at soccer, they suck pretty bad, should have beaten them 5-0).

380 posted on 09/08/2008 11:04:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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