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Peggy Noonan is frustrating. She gets many conservative and cultural issues very well and she can write beautifully--but she can completely miss the boat and dither as well.

This article is more accurate than not. ""The difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull? Lipstick" is pure American and goes straight into Bartlett's."

1 posted on 09/06/2008 12:34:10 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Sorry, Peggy. My gorge is rising. Gotta go cut the lawn, or something. C-ya


2 posted on 09/06/2008 12:35:18 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Some dem mouthpiece is on Fox now - the latest talking point is that Gov. Palin is a distraction. Oh, and he also said that a poll taken on Emily’s List (I don’t know what that is) shows 55% against Gov. Palin. What’s Emily’s List?


3 posted on 09/06/2008 12:35:52 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
"A servant's heart"

When Palin said that, I thought it might be a biblical reference. Anyone?

9 posted on 09/06/2008 12:42:33 PM PDT by GVnana ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery.")
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Peggy Noonan should be looked on for what she has become.

Like the aging and fragile Nancy Reagan now being manipulated by her son Ronnie Jr. into saying she “likes” Obama, Nancy Noonan has become a puppet of the elite and fragile in her need for their approval.

She is always talking about “the train going off the rails” and “the dark world swirling”. I think she is on prescription drugs when she writes half her stuff. The WSJ should look in Alaska for a replacement of this time worn and now trite “deep” thinker. Sarah Palin’s former press secretary looked sounded really cute and fresh and absolutely intelligent and on the mark on Fox News the other day. Let her write a column and then we’ll see how “poetic Peggy” has become “Old Time Rose” or more like “Tokoyo Rose” bought to you by the elitist and out of touch WSJ.


11 posted on 09/06/2008 12:43:54 PM PDT by TurtleStink
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Nancy Pelosi, another mother of five, often seems dazed and ad hoc.

Peggy, Peggy, Peggy: I know Pres. Bush didn't ask you to be his speechwriter, but you don't have to take it out on every prominent or popular Republican. You're starting to sound a bit snarky.

12 posted on 09/06/2008 12:44:21 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Peggy trying to get back in the good graces of Conservatives after she got caught trashing Governor Palin?

Sorry, but that ship has sailed.

13 posted on 09/06/2008 12:44:50 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
As a writer and a conservative I say to Peggy . . . blah, blah, blah. Is this wonderfully written in support of Governor Sarah Palin, most likely. I only made it to the second killed in while I was reading. Why: I looked up and saw her name and picture. Darling elitist Peggy. I know she is in big with many conservative talk show hosts like Laura Ingraham, but girlfriend Noonan seems to lack the understanding on all levels why Sarah Palin is such a great pick for McCain and such an amazing lady.

Noonan has a cut out quite a career for herself. She does nothing for me. She is a bit like Obama in that she likes to hear herself talk and that is about all she contributes in her articles anymore . . . flaccid BS without real heart and substance.

Obama--empty suit. Noonan--empty words.

Career over.

14 posted on 09/06/2008 12:45:31 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

The Left-Wing crazy women on PBS were hysterical with rage over the use of “A Servant’s Heart”, claiming it was code for something racist. Like Peggy they know nothing about the Bible


21 posted on 09/06/2008 12:48:37 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
She is right on one point. It is war. What Sarah did in that speech in which she never mentioned 0bama’s name was to objectify him and his celebrity campaign. She took the celebrity, messiah effect and squashed it.

While we liked McCain's ad about 0bama’s celebrity standing with the left...it didn't quite hit the mark.

Sarah took the first rule of combat to objectify your opponent. 0bama effectively made the object and not the bigger than life personality could be dealt the blows Sarah needed to deliver.

25 posted on 09/06/2008 12:52:22 PM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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"In politics it used to be called Tolstoy: war and peace. McCain-Palin will mean more war, Obama-Biden will mean peace.

"This campaign is about to become: epic.

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"John McCain also made a speech. It was flat."

Noonan is wrong about McCain's speech. It may have seemed 'flat' after the flamethrower of the night before, but his authenticity as one who "hates" war and will do everything in his power to protect America and keep the peace touched even his critics.

Obama, on the other hand, has no such authenticity on the subject of protecting America, only long connections to a new and unproven Far Left wing of the Party he represents.

Republicans better hope that Noonan is right: that this will be where the Democrats turn.

26 posted on 09/06/2008 12:53:44 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
She has the power of the normal.

What a bizarre article. If Sarah Palin is so normal, what is making her stand out as no one in the last 60 years has stood out? How does "normal" excite the conservative base so much?

Sarah Palin in extraordinary. She is energetic. She is courageous. She is grounded in truth.

29 posted on 09/06/2008 1:03:14 PM PDT by gitmo (,)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

“...These women make large portions of America work...”

And that describes the millions of men and women who volunteer their time and talent every week, some every day, across this country in church programs, community programs and political organizations. They serve without any expectation of reward. But it sure is nice to say “Thanks for serving,” to them every once in a while. These are the ones who have a servant’s heart. It’s become the misfortune for We the Peoples to see our elected officials forget this when they go off to congress and come back filthy rich for re-election. They sure lose their servant’s heart real quick, and with it any integrity they may have once had when they were running for office the first time.

Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air who reminds us of what’s really important. No wonder Obama is worried. She’s getting a more favorable response than he is and she’s not even running for president.

— Jane


30 posted on 09/06/2008 1:03:33 PM PDT by quintr
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Poor Peggy—she got caught in a snobbish remark last week. Maybe she learned something, and I hope it was more than to make sure the mike is off.


39 posted on 09/06/2008 1:18:15 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

After her misadventure last week on the live mic- I know more about her than I ever wanted.

She lost my respect and my trust. Even while I often disagreed with her view- I read her pretty regularly.

Sorry Peggy, you’ve shown yourself.


41 posted on 09/06/2008 1:25:56 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Peggy paddled too far into the deep end, realized it, and is now trying desperately to paddle back to where the water is not over her head.
47 posted on 09/06/2008 2:01:29 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
If Palin has 45% approval on Emily's List—in spite of her strong pro-life convictions—then her appeal among women voters must be quite powerful indeed.
48 posted on 09/06/2008 2:05:39 PM PDT by sourcery (Why do Republicans have no guts? Because the Governor of Alaska has them all!)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Youtube of Convention

Triumph the Insult Comic Dog hanging with some freepers and lurkers
50 posted on 09/06/2008 2:11:32 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
this campaign, this beautiful golden thing with two admirable men at the top and two admirable vice presidential candidates, is going to turn dark.

John McCain also made a speech. It was flat.


You know, if some people would actually listen without immediately categorizing everything they hear into slots in their agenda . . . and then if some people would quit exaggerating about the candidates. But then this IS the press media we're talking about, the nearly extinct subspecies of humanity who places her/his own spin on the printed word to make it seem something it's probably not.

Not that I like camera phones or video phones, BUT they can be used to document the truth of a situation which in words could be construed differently. YouTube is now the place to go to observe history in the making. I'm glad I'm not a text writer trying to write about US History (or world history for that matter). Daunting job. However, without access to YouTube would we have documentation of Biden's Gaffes and Obama's Outright Lies?

John McCain's speech was fine as I listened to it, and I loved the audience's "USA" shouts as the "protesters" were being removed. But then he had an audience who already supported him, and so did Obama during his caliphation/pontification.

52 posted on 09/06/2008 3:30:43 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Number of the Beast:"six hundred threescore six." Barack Hussein Obama can translate:"Lucifer.")
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

“It is starting to look to me like a nation-defining election. And in this it seems almost old-fashioned. 1992 for instance didn’t seem or feel nation-defining, not as I remember it, nor did 2000. 1964 did, and ‘80 did, but they both ended in landslides. Landslide is not what I’m seeing here.”

Where to begin. For one thing the polling data and the decisions both candidates are making about where to campaign as of early September are certainly not inconsistent with a landslide in favor of McCain. If she’s not seeing that she needs make a date with her optometrist.

For another thing, isn’t Palin just part of the Republicans’ bullshit narrative. I think that’s how Peggy described it the other night. Narratives were much on her mind then, but not apparently when she wrote this WSJ piece.

And finally, what can you say about this:

“John McCain also made a speech. It was flat.”

Maybe it sounded flat. I didn’t listen to McCain but I read his words and they were more moving than anything I ever read by Noonan. I think reading was how most people got Lincoln’s speeches in his day. I wonder if his delivery was flat too.

Peggy, there is some kind of rehab for just about every human affliction. Maybe it’s time for some spiritual rehab.


53 posted on 09/06/2008 3:47:25 PM PDT by SBprone
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