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"I’m not joking you should all be shot!" (Response to Traditional Marriage Campaign in CA)
American TFP ^ | 9/5/2008 | John Ritchie

Posted on 09/06/2008 11:49:23 AM PDT by Pyro7480

Sept 1 - The First Campaign

Today we campaigned for traditional marriage at the Cal Expo in Sacramento. It was the busiest day of the fair.

We made several “Honk for Traditional Marriage” signs and displayed them at the fair entrance. Honks of all types filled the air.

The issue of same-sex “marriage” has divided the state down the middle. Even within the same vehicle, we got both thumbs up and thumbs down. Very few people are undecided or unsure where they stand.

But don’t expect civility from same-sex advocates. One woman approached a TFP volunteer and bluntly stated: “You should be killed for your opinion on marriage. I’m not joking you should all be shot.” A few other passing cars attempted to inflict harm.

A moving car launched a full coke can at Mr. Thomas Schneider and another car containing a group of screaming girls threw a cup of ice coffee at him as well. Fortunately, both flying objects missed our dedicated volunteers. Saint Joseph, our caravan patron, is indeed protecting us.

We’ve found Protestants who agree wholeheartedly with the Catholic Church’s teaching against homosexuality. A preacher we met at the fair who had a pro-traditional marriage booth was happy to meet us and appreciated the TFP flier: “This flier is the best flier on the subject I’ve seen yet.”

He added: “Catholics have a term called the Church militant. We (Protestants) need something like that too.”

A city bus driver came and said: “I need another stack of fliers because I gave out the last one I had.” Apparently, he made sure each passenger on his bus received a flier.

I want to thank all of you who are praying for us. We will need your continued prayers.

Saint Joseph, pray for us!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bloat; ca2008; california; cwii; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; marriage; marriageamendment; prop8; samesexmarriage; tfp
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To: Desdemona

Amen!!!


41 posted on 09/06/2008 2:27:37 PM PDT by wizr ("Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition." - Chaplain Maguire, Pearl Harbor, 1941)
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To: Grampa Dave
What about their infernal electicity? I'm stuck with that!!!

I'm on propain for my furnace. The rest is their stupid electric... Phoey!!!

42 posted on 09/06/2008 2:29:18 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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To: SierraWasp
"I’m not joking you should all be shot."

That's why they are against owning guns: they can't control their own urges.

If this khunt had had a gun, she might very well have used it, as it fits with the typical tyrant tradition where no room exists for differences (of opinion in this case).

43 posted on 09/06/2008 2:35:29 PM PDT by budwiesest (I smell a landslide in November. One for the record books.)
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To: wita; Melinda
"I see the ultimate solution being the same for both sides, as there is no room for compromise from either side or all is lost. The left is just a bit more open and obnoxious about the ultimate solution."

I don't think that's the case. There are a significant number of people over here on the pro-traditional-marriage side who were once pro-gay or even thought of ourselves as being gay. I'm one of them.

I am convinced that each and every sexually confused person who supports the gay agenda has the potential to change by coming to a knowledge of the truth.

It requires a certain boldness on our part about presenting the truth, and also a certain delicacy.

That is our job, like the job of the Eleven on the day of Pentecost: to seek the lost and extend the gift of salvation in Ouf Lord.

44 posted on 09/06/2008 2:58:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
There are a significant number of people over here on the pro-traditional-marriage side who were once pro-gay or even thought of ourselves as being gay. I'm one of them.

Mrs. Don-o, I've had gay relatives, friends, employees, and neighbors-- I've written plenty here about how we live next door to a couple of gay women, and get along with them just fine.

I used to go out of my way to defend gay folks, but when they started this gay "marriage" idiocy, and started proselytizing to schoolkids, they lost me.

45 posted on 09/06/2008 3:58:58 PM PDT by backhoe (Vote Palin- for a Real Change...)
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To: backhoe; Melinda; Pyro7480
I'm not defending disordered sex or the gay agenda as if it were something we should tolerate. Such toleration is corrupt because it displays indifference to the genuine good of the persons involved, who should be helped to seek sexual healing.

Here's what I was reactting to: Melinda said that the "they should be shot" mentality is becoming "the same for both sides," I suppose meaning that5 both sides would like he others to be eliminated, destroyed.

But this is terribly wrong. But I attitude that yearns for a violent "ultimate solution" should be rejected, because our aim is not to obliterate gay people, but to oppose the forces which push them deeper into this miserable disorder. In every case we are commanded to love them as brothers and sisters, knowing that what God intends for them is life, healing, and holiness.

46 posted on 09/06/2008 4:27:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Desdemona
Well thank GOODNESS you're back!

We were wondering if everything was o.k.

Glad things are better for you.

Been there, done that -- in 1992, the firm I was working for went out of business without ANY warning ten days before Christmas and left us all on the street. But everything worked out o.k.!

47 posted on 09/06/2008 6:12:48 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Thanks. Actually, this was a case of a triumvirate of liberal democrat “women” bullies running the show in a nonprofit - and I was in fund-raising and not allowed to defer to someone else when answering questions about embryonic stem cell research and whether or not it was supported. It was literally hell with fluorescent lighting. The place was a revolving door of good people and those of us who left now have a bit of a support group going. Sad when you want to help others that such crap gets in the way. So, I left and took some time to heal as well as found another job more in line with helping without having to worry about stem cells. yep, I'm back. ;)
48 posted on 09/06/2008 6:21:55 PM PDT by Desdemona (On top of everything else, the Palin pick coaxed this FReeper out of posting and pinging retirement.)
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To: Desdemona
Well, thank goodness it was just a JOB (not your health or your family - you can always get another job!)

Your support group is a good idea, y'all should stick together. If you have a sympathetic bishop or pastor maybe you can get some help of some sort -- like a better nonprofit to volunteer for, or something . . . . or at least get the word out through neutral channels about the hell with fluorescent lighting . . . .

49 posted on 09/06/2008 6:28:35 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Everything here is fine. It was just a job. I gained a lot of weight through stress eating and am in the middle of taking it off.

I'll tell you what, though, the experience gave me a whole new perspective on catastrophic disease and what sort of family support is necessary for those who are victims of it. Talk about needing marriage to be strong and living the culture of life.

50 posted on 09/06/2008 6:43:11 PM PDT by Desdemona (On top of everything else, the Palin pick coaxed this FReeper out of posting and pinging retirement.)
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To: Desdemona

Well, you can view it as a “learning experience” I guess . . . that’s how I try to look at it! < g >


51 posted on 09/06/2008 6:47:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: SierraWasp



52 posted on 09/06/2008 9:18:10 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Pyro7480
One woman approached a TFP volunteer and bluntly stated: “You should be killed for your opinion on marriage. I’m not joking you should all be shot.” A few other passing cars attempted to inflict harm.

These people are in for the rudest (nad perhaps final) shocks of their lives one day.

53 posted on 09/07/2008 12:44:12 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That is our job, like the job of the Eleven on the day of Pentecost: to seek the lost and extend the gift of salvation in Our Lord. That is our job, like the job of the Eleven on the day of Pentecost: to seek the lost and extend the gift of salvation in Our Lord.

Agreed, but when the hunt is over (seeking the lost) it will be more of a Joshua scenario. That is why I said ultimate when end result might have been a better way of saying it. On the other hand, in the last days, He will fight our battles, so I guess we need to exercise our faith in the only King recognized in the USA.


54 posted on 09/07/2008 6:15:31 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: SierraWasp

You could go solar!

I believe that we can select alternate electric suppliers.


55 posted on 09/07/2008 7:54:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah Palin!)
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To: Pyro7480

Gay marriage would separate marriage from procreation, mother and father, and blood relatives if there are any children involved. Basically, it would remove biology from the concept of marriage and family and turn marriage into an institution dedicated to recognizing significant adult relationships. The kids just sort of fit in there somewhere, but they’re no longer the main point. With marriage and biology separated, the future would not be important because the kids would have haphazard families which revolve around adult desire.

Left-wing radicals have sought to deconstruct marriage. They apparently feel “oppressed” by marriage. Rather than not getting married and leaving the institution for other people, they want to destroy it for everyone.

Unfortunately, young people especially have been trained to think of homosexuals and lesbians as oppressed, and anyone opposed to gay marriage as “racist,” “hateful” and bigoted”. Taking up a radical cause is very appealing to the young because it allows them to feel self-righteous and powerful. Because their response to this issue is based on emotion, it is very difficult to reason with these people. I can only hope that once young people start having their own children, they may change their minds.


56 posted on 09/07/2008 8:37:00 AM PDT by beejaa
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Melinda said that the “they should be shot” mentality is becoming “the same for both sides,” I suppose meaning that5 both sides would like he others to be eliminated, destroyed.
But this is terribly wrong.”

You are mistaken, I didn’t say anything at all like this, please reread my comment and leave me out of your disagreement.


57 posted on 09/07/2008 1:41:15 PM PDT by Melinda
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To: Melinda
"I see the ultimate solution being the same for both sides, as there is no room for compromise from either side or all is lost. The left is just a bit more open and obnoxious about the ultimate solution."

I apologize. Somebody calling herself "Melinda" wrote the above; I must have gotten her mixed up with you. Sorry for the error.

58 posted on 09/07/2008 4:27:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,' GK Chesterton)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Wita wrote that TO me, not I to Wita. No problem, I just couldn’t figure out why I was being responded to while citing something I didn’t write.


59 posted on 09/07/2008 5:10:56 PM PDT by Melinda
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To: Melinda

OH! Thanks for the clarification.


60 posted on 09/08/2008 7:49:18 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." - Philo of Alexandria)
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