..here's your sign
Posted on 09/01/2008 5:15:27 AM PDT by raybbr
Agriprocessors, the Brooklyn-based company that is the nation’s largest kosher meat producer, is well known for the labor troubles at its meatpacking plant in Iowa — federal agents detained 389 of its workers as illegal immigrants in May, and labor officials in Iowa have accused it of employing 57 under-age workers.
But Agriprocessors is also having labor troubles closer to home, with the company asking the United States Supreme Court to overturn a vote to unionize at its distribution center along the Brooklyn waterfront.
If successful, the company’s appeal could have repercussions at companies across the country: it is trying to persuade the Supreme Court to rule that illegal immigrants do not have the right to join labor unions.
In September 2005, the company’s Brooklyn employees voted 15 to 5 to unionize, with one ballot challenged. The workers, most of them immigrants from Mexico, complained of low pay, not receiving time-and-a-half for overtime and not having health insurance or paid holidays.
“It was a dirty place to work, and they treated some of the workers real bad,” said Lucilo Brito, a former Agriprocessors truck driver.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
When Agriprocessors said it would ignore the vote because it had discovered that most employees were in the country illegally, the union insisted the company was acting in bad faith.
“They knew all along they were hiring undocumented workers,” said Mr. Young, the organizer. (He wondered why, if the company was suddenly so concerned about employing illegal immigrants, it did not conduct similar checks at its Iowa plant.)
When will these owners be in jail?
Audacity of illegal labor.
..here's your sign
What part of illegal is not understood?
They challenge unions and challenge our Country
yet we allow them to come here JUST to birth their children so they can be US citizens and we allow them to take our jobs when will this nonsense stop?
With McCain? I don’t think so!
This is the first time I was called a flip flopper by a neighbor, I asked why he was calling me that, he said for months I complained about Mccain and now just because he chose Palin for VP he’s okay, he said we were all fakes because for whatever reason I disliked McCain, McCain will be the President not Palin.
Good point, we all complained against Mccain for President well nothings changed really he will still be President not Palin. (at least not till 2012:)
So let me draw you a picture.
The story is from the New York Times. It can be immediately deduced from that fact that it will spin, obfuscate, and parse facts in order to distract from any reality that is counter to its own chosen one.
The story has nothing to do with illegal aliens. The story is about a company in Brooklyn that is trying to avoid being strong-armed by a union and has dared to stand up to them. In Brooklyn, that can be a dangerous thing to do.
But whoever fed the story to the Timies did so with enough slander to make the company look like the villain to people...who...cannot...will not...think...for...themselves.
You know, people who let the media shape their entire existences. Lenin, I think, coined a term for them...
And then go see if you can find a life.
Scratch that line.
So why are they still working there? Like that old saying goes: "Shut up or quit."
Kind of confusing but what I’m getting is that the company is happy to hire illegals as long as they won’t be unionized and the union doesn’t want to hire illegals unless they unionize.
One thing is clear and unchanging. It’s not illegal to unionize but it is illegal to hire illegal aliens.
Apparently YOU are the one obsessed with latinos. The story is not about latinos it's about illegal aliens.
Do you know what percentage of illegals caught at the Postville plant were NOT latino?
But, since you bring it up why are YOU accusing this to be about latinos? Are you open borders guys finally admitting that illegal immigration IS about latinos or hispanics?
If that is the case then you must allow US to claim it is about hispanics or keep your mouth shut about it. I am tired of you pulling out the "race" card when it supports your position and then, at the same time, using the race card to denigrate ours.
The story has nothing to do with illegal aliens. The story is about a company in Brooklyn that is trying to avoid being strong-armed by a union and has dared to stand up to them. In Brooklyn, that can be a dangerous thing to do.
The story is ALL about illegals. It's about denying illegals the right to vote. For the Union. I guess you can't get past your bigotry to notice that.
You know, people who let the media shape their entire existences. Lenin, I think, coined a term for them...
Tell me what it is. Then I'll respond to your inability to be honest.
is it me, would this individual (and the rest of us) benefit from a switch to decaf?
Oh, that's all you have to say?
I wasn’t aware of this:
“Lawyers for the board and union argue that it is foolish for the company to appeal the 1984 decision, in which the Supreme Court ruled that illegal immigrant workers fall within the definition of “employee” in the National Labor Relations Act and thus have the right to join unions.”
So, they are here illegally. Have presented false documentation. But can still join unions? WTF was the Supreme Court thinking? No wonder we don’t hear about unions complaining about illegals very often. They see them as a vast untapped potential for membership, power, and dues!
The company is guilty of the crime of hiring illegals.
The union is wrong for trying to organize these same illegals. (not sure if that is a crime)
If the government were to do its job and deport these illegals and penalize the company....no more problem.
In this instance, it’s really just that simple. Everything else is just so much fluff.
Guess I shouldda read your post first...oh well...coffee’s ready. }:^/
NYT hearts u.
Even the pictures didn't work.
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The problem could be solved if everybody just obeyed the law. The union can unionize all the illegals they want but if the company doesn’t hire illegals there won’t be any to unionize.
Granted, legal Americans would likely unionize but that’s not illegal.
My point exactly. Of course this would mean that the government would have to enforce its own laws....
What the Supreme Court was thinking is that they didn’t want to INCREASE employers’ incentive to hire illegal aliens over legal workers, which is exactly what making illegals workers an unprotected class of workers does.
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