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1 posted on 08/31/2008 7:07:57 PM PDT by neverdem
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Both dissents are not merely mistaken, but (if I may be so blunt) shoddy.

Yep, shoddy. Obvious even to this layman. And to think they make fun of Clarence Thomas' writing skills! I love reading his opinions almost as much as Scalia's. The liberal side should be embarassed.

2 posted on 08/31/2008 7:13:06 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("John McCain has a birthday but he gives US the present.")
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To: neverdem

Kinda makes this election all that more important, doesn’t it?


3 posted on 08/31/2008 7:13:46 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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I can believe there are people capable of reading English who don’t realize the 2nd Amendment applies to individuals. Really scary.


4 posted on 08/31/2008 7:14:31 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: neverdem
So who will appoint the next justices? McCain or Obama?

So much rides on this election.

5 posted on 08/31/2008 7:16:21 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: neverdem

“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”

– Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan


6 posted on 08/31/2008 7:17:50 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: neverdem

FYI the term “well-regulated” at the time the 2A was written meant “well provsioned.”


7 posted on 08/31/2008 7:18:50 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: neverdem

This to me shows their Judicial Activism. They do not even care if they are correct,they are trying to make law. I wonder if it could be grounds for impeachment. Judges and the system punish Americans daily for mistakes. Lawyers never get sued for shoddy work or representation. Something needs to be done.


9 posted on 08/31/2008 7:19:19 PM PDT by gunnedah
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But it was historic for another reason: the sheer number of mistakes made in the dissenters' opinions. Given that all four dissenters co-signed the Stevens and Breyer dissenting opinions, this means that the mistakes must have escaped, not only four members of the highest court in the land, but their sixteen research clerks!

More likely they just don't care; us vs. them, that's it. This is what makes me think that sooner or later, the U.S. may have to be split up.

11 posted on 08/31/2008 7:28:42 PM PDT by wendy1946
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—bflr—


13 posted on 08/31/2008 7:42:19 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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The logical conclusion is that the dissenters cared not so much about constitutional law as about policy, and what they find good policy simply had to be constitutional.

There's one other reason.

Stevens is obviously laboring under the impairment of senility. Some of his recent opinions (Kelo, for instance) have been chock full of factual errors, even citing the 180-degree opposite of some prior decisions.

14 posted on 08/31/2008 7:51:21 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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OK. If the 2A only means that states may maintain a militia it, thereby, means that states have a right to maintain nuclear arms, cruise missiles and aircraft carriers.


17 posted on 08/31/2008 8:21:11 PM PDT by groanup (Eat more possum! (it tastes better than crow.))
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Since Stevens is lying on and about court documents, can’t we push for his impeachment?


21 posted on 08/31/2008 8:50:28 PM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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BOOM


22 posted on 08/31/2008 8:57:21 PM PDT by Deetes ( (God Bless the Troops) .)
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25 posted on 08/31/2008 9:45:46 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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You just can’t hire good help these days. The clerks who contributed to this should be dismissed. Too bad that the SCOTUS judges don’t seem to read what they sign.


27 posted on 09/01/2008 3:19:08 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (When news breaks, I'll fix it.)
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To: neverdem; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Lib justices don’t know the precedents? How surprising!

The Constitution can be amended by the Congress and state legislatures.

The President can’t amend the Constitution, nor veto an amendment passed by Congress.

The Supreme Court can’t amend the Constitution.

There are those who think it can, but they are wrong.

Thanks neverdem.


31 posted on 09/01/2008 6:31:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Dunno about relevance, but this was interesting:

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am11

Amendment 11 - Judicial Limits. Ratified 2/7/1795. Note History

The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

http://www.usconstitution.net/constamnotes.html#Am11

The 11th Amendment came about as a direct result of the Supreme Court decision in Chisholm v Georgia (2 U.S. 419) in 1793 (see the Events Page for details). Congress felt that the Supreme Court had over stepped its bounds, and feared it would do so again unless prohibited by the Constitution. The Chisholm case was decided in 1793, just five years after the adoption of the Constitution. The Amendment was approved by Congress on March 4, 1794, and ratified on February 7, 1795 (340 days). The Amendment limits the jurisdiction of the federal courts to automatically hear cases brought against a state by the citizens of another state. Later interpretations have expanded this to include citizens of the state being sued, as well.

In Hollingsworth v Virginia (3 USC 378 [1798]), the passage and ratification of the 11th was challenged for two reasons. First because the President did not sign the amendment bill, and second because the amendment presented a situation where people had some legal relief before ratification that dried up after, creating an ex post facto situation. The Supreme Court rejected both challenges, setting some important precedent for future amendments.


32 posted on 09/01/2008 6:38:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: neverdem
Dave Hardy is right as usual.

His gun blog is very good.
33 posted on 09/01/2008 7:29:39 AM PDT by publiusF27
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Did the dissenting Justices either (1) not read the Heller-side briefs or (2) were willing to take this position in spite of its having been proven utterly ahistoric?

The answer is (2).

Truth, in the liberal mind, is all relative, not something to be discovered, but something to be created to serve one's personal interests.

Does anyone really believe the Constitution contains a right to abortion? Liberal justices routinely manipulate history to support their desired outcomes.

34 posted on 09/01/2008 10:30:47 AM PDT by SupplySider
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Given that all four dissenters co-signed the Stevens and Breyer dissenting opinions, this means that the mistakes must have escaped, not only four members of the highest court in the land, but their sixteen research clerks!

No, it doesn't. It means that the twenty of them, or at least the justices are, how shall I put this -- "results oriented", and would sign a piece of dog shit if it advanced their policy objectives. Come to think of it...

36 posted on 09/01/2008 4:42:09 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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