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D.C. v. Heller: The Court's Liberal Wing Shoots Itself In The Foot
havegunwillvote.com ^ | July 15, 2008 | David T. Hardy

Posted on 08/31/2008 7:07:57 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Since Stevens is lying on and about court documents, can’t we push for his impeachment?


21 posted on 08/31/2008 8:50:28 PM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: neverdem

BOOM


22 posted on 08/31/2008 8:57:21 PM PDT by Deetes ( (God Bless the Troops) .)
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To: Iron Munro
(Vanity) The Militia Clause, or H.L. Mencken was Right

Cheers!

23 posted on 08/31/2008 9:09:37 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ctdonath2

If there were four citizens who disregarded that most fundamental of American concepts—individual freedom and empowerment—it would be distressing. Americans would rightly shun them. But, 4 members of the US Supreme Court so unashamedly denouncing the right of individuals to be empowered to defend themselves and freedom. This is an outrage of the highest order.

Ultimately, if the people refuse to obey a dictate of the state, it is a matter of force that determines who has the real power. Only if the people have the ultimate means of defending liberty do the people truly have liberty. Otherwise, it is only an illusion permitted by those who truly have the power.


24 posted on 08/31/2008 9:37:23 PM PDT by iacovatx (If truth is not in your arsenal, you are fighting for the wrong side.)
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To: neverdem; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

25 posted on 08/31/2008 9:45:46 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: AnalogReigns

Democracy is a fairly good system for governing a fairly homogeneous group of people with shared ideals and values. It is NOT a reasonable system for sharing power between two or more groups with nothing in common at all which basically just hate each other. At that point, all you have left is a contest to see who can do the better job of gaming the system, which is what we have now.


26 posted on 09/01/2008 12:26:25 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: neverdem

You just can’t hire good help these days. The clerks who contributed to this should be dismissed. Too bad that the SCOTUS judges don’t seem to read what they sign.


27 posted on 09/01/2008 3:19:08 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (When news breaks, I'll fix it.)
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To: IrishCatholic; Panzerlied; All
Well, I have just two words for pinning my hopes on what a Republican president might nominate to the SCOTUS:

Sandra Day O'Connor.

Well, okay, that's 3 words.

28 posted on 09/01/2008 3:32:27 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (When news breaks, I'll fix it.)
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To: MaggieCarta
You just can’t hire good help these days. The clerks who contributed to this should be dismissed. Too bad that the SCOTUS judges don’t seem to read what they sign.

That's my take as well. The "good" lawschools are, imho, designed to be little more than Lib indoctrination factories. They turn out two types of lawyer: Lib lawyers who have drunk the koolaid and have only learned how the law can be "interpreted" into pretzels (and beyond) to suit their needs and Conservative lawyers who have learned to survive in a hostile environment and successfully resisted the indoctrination. Which Justices the best/brightest of those two groups (defined as best/brightest for Conservatives, greatest capacity for legal manipulation for the Libs) go clerk for is nothing more than a foregone conclusion.
29 posted on 09/01/2008 3:40:17 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Thanks very much, tanknetter. I concur with your post ;)


30 posted on 09/01/2008 5:09:57 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (When news breaks, I'll fix it.)
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To: neverdem; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Lib justices don’t know the precedents? How surprising!

The Constitution can be amended by the Congress and state legislatures.

The President can’t amend the Constitution, nor veto an amendment passed by Congress.

The Supreme Court can’t amend the Constitution.

There are those who think it can, but they are wrong.

Thanks neverdem.


31 posted on 09/01/2008 6:31:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Dunno about relevance, but this was interesting:

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am11

Amendment 11 - Judicial Limits. Ratified 2/7/1795. Note History

The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

http://www.usconstitution.net/constamnotes.html#Am11

The 11th Amendment came about as a direct result of the Supreme Court decision in Chisholm v Georgia (2 U.S. 419) in 1793 (see the Events Page for details). Congress felt that the Supreme Court had over stepped its bounds, and feared it would do so again unless prohibited by the Constitution. The Chisholm case was decided in 1793, just five years after the adoption of the Constitution. The Amendment was approved by Congress on March 4, 1794, and ratified on February 7, 1795 (340 days). The Amendment limits the jurisdiction of the federal courts to automatically hear cases brought against a state by the citizens of another state. Later interpretations have expanded this to include citizens of the state being sued, as well.

In Hollingsworth v Virginia (3 USC 378 [1798]), the passage and ratification of the 11th was challenged for two reasons. First because the President did not sign the amendment bill, and second because the amendment presented a situation where people had some legal relief before ratification that dried up after, creating an ex post facto situation. The Supreme Court rejected both challenges, setting some important precedent for future amendments.


32 posted on 09/01/2008 6:38:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: neverdem
Dave Hardy is right as usual.

His gun blog is very good.
33 posted on 09/01/2008 7:29:39 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: neverdem
Did the dissenting Justices either (1) not read the Heller-side briefs or (2) were willing to take this position in spite of its having been proven utterly ahistoric?

The answer is (2).

Truth, in the liberal mind, is all relative, not something to be discovered, but something to be created to serve one's personal interests.

Does anyone really believe the Constitution contains a right to abortion? Liberal justices routinely manipulate history to support their desired outcomes.

34 posted on 09/01/2008 10:30:47 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: wendy1946; AnalogReigns
I believe in my lifetime (the next 40 years) we'll see some sort of actual civil war of the shooting kind.
The differences between the Obama-liberals and constitutionalists is just too great.
AnalogReigns

wendy1946 wrote:
Democracy is a fairly good system for governing a fairly homogeneous group of people with shared ideals and values. It is NOT a reasonable system for sharing power between two or more groups with nothing in common at all which basically just hate each other. At that point, all you have left is a contest to see who can do the better job of gaming the system, which is what we have now.

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Under our republican system our constitutional 'ideals and values' are clearly outlined in the document itself..
We do not need to share power with groups that attempt to 'game the system',-- we can simply refuse to play their games, - on a county or state basis.
Civil [nonviolent] disobedience on a large enough scale will work.

County and State officials are sworn to support and defend the Constitution, -- not the socalled 'laws' made up by liberals.

35 posted on 09/01/2008 2:11:24 PM PDT by jtom36
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To: neverdem
Given that all four dissenters co-signed the Stevens and Breyer dissenting opinions, this means that the mistakes must have escaped, not only four members of the highest court in the land, but their sixteen research clerks!

No, it doesn't. It means that the twenty of them, or at least the justices are, how shall I put this -- "results oriented", and would sign a piece of dog shit if it advanced their policy objectives. Come to think of it...

36 posted on 09/01/2008 4:42:09 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: neverdem

Those dissents weren’t shoddy work. They were lies. A Supreme Court Justice is not a stupid person. The Liberal Justices will no more acknowledge an individual RKBA, anymore than a Conservative Justice will acknowledge a right to an abortion. The difference is that only the former is mentioned in the Constitution!


37 posted on 09/02/2008 8:41:12 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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