Posted on 08/31/2008 4:28:08 PM PDT by cgk
Here is Alan Colmes in his own words, or his fans' own words, or other people's words... He's still digging.
The post about Sarah Palins pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are. Nothing like epithet-hurling if you want to make your point, or if you have strong objections to what someone says or does. Furthermore, I in no way mean to suggest that her childs Down Syndrome was in any way related to decisions she made. In fact I never mentioned Down Syndrome in the post. However, I apologize that my post was not more clear on that point. That is my fault, and Ill take responsibility for not being more clear on that point. That being said
Jaru summed it up on a previous thread.
Conservative hate was re-routed via conservative blogs!
Anyway, I love how everyone keeps trying to accuse Alan of accusing Princess Mooseburger of birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose.
He asked a judgement question about a 7 month pregnant woman who just had her water break GET ON A 12 HOUR FLIGHT TO GIVE BIRTH after giving a 30 MINUTE SPEECH instead of doing the SENSIBLE THING AND STAYING PUT WITH A DOCTOR.
The idea that you cant question Sarah Palins judgment because she has a Down Syndrome baby is right up there with the outrage some feel the minute you question a man who was held in a prison camp for five years. Yet, the same outraged protectors of our values have no trouble questioning Obamas judgment: a nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood, his choice of a church, his very faith, and then they blamed that on the Clintons). The question was even raised as to whether he is hiding the truth of his birth certificate. In fact, hotair.com, the the site most outraged about what I posted, was one of the prime venues of the birth certificate debate, among others concerning Obamas judgment. And lets not forget the attacks on Michelle Obama and the insinuations that she doesnt really love her country.
For the record, I think the McCain choice of Palin was caculatingly smart, in that it guarantees that a glass ceiling be broken after the coming election. Im sure Sarah Palin is a fine person who is just very wrong on the issues and, like all of us, hasnt always shown perfect judgment. But dont tell me that John McCain chose the best person for the job, or that he didnt make this choice reactively, because Hillary Clinton is not on the Democratic ticket.
For the record, here is the link to Rogers Cadenheads post on the issue of judgment.
Maybe Palins actions can be written off as Alaskan grit, since shes a macho hunting governor who jogs in freezing temperatures and dines on moose burgers. But as a parent myself, I think the Palins were extremely fortunate that their reckless stupidity did not end in tragedy. As middle-aged parents who already had four kids, the Palins had to be completely familiar with all the things that can go wrong in a pregnancy. One commenter on the Washington Times laid out the enormous risk she was taking:
Airlines are unequipped to handle most emergencies at 30,000 feet, particularly the kind Palin put her unborn child at markedly increased risk for. These emergencies include birthing a premature infant or uncontrolled maternal bleeding. This was her FIFTH pregnancy and delivery can happen rapidly and unexpectedly. The baby or Palin could easily have died.
The Anchorage Daily News gave the chronology of events the day Palin was in Dallas giving a speech where she began contractions, and water broke. It quotes Dr. Laurie Gregg, a Sacramnto obstetrician:
[Dr. Laurie Gregg] who is active in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said when a pregnant womans water breaks, she should go right to the hospital because of the risk of infection. Thats true even if the amniotic fluid simply leaks out To us, leaking and broken, we are talking the same thing. We are talking doctor-speak, Gregg said.
Down Syndrome is another matter, and can sometimes be related to a mothers age. This is a risk that older parents take, and one the Palins took consciously, and not irresponsibly.
Because of prenatal testing, most families now know beforehand, said Judy Waldron, president of the Alaska chapter of the National Down Syndrome Congress, a support and education group that delivered a parent packet to the Palins in the hospital.
They anticipate it and they kind of relish the challenge of having a child with special needs, said Waldron, an Anchorage teacher whose 19-year-old daughter, Lyn, has Down syndrome.
If we are going to evaluate candidates based on life decisions: what churches they attend, what religions they practice, who their preachers are, who their friends are, all of which fall under the rubrick of judgment, then all of this is fair game. That argument cuts many ways so, to quote my least favorite president, Bring it on.
Judgment my @ss!
Colmes would have been happier if she had “drilled (her) brain,” er uterus, and rid of the *”tissue.” *(see DUmmieFUnnies)
The libs smear of working hockey-moms with special needs kids is going to backfire, BIG time!
LOL!
I thought they had retied that with the Sore_Lieberman stickers!
So what’s your point A$$ H0— ?
It’s certainly possible that when you came into this world, Your mother, instead of calling the OB, called the proctologist.
None of us can really KNOW, we’ll just have to speculate. BTW, do you know the type of person the term “jerkoff” refers to?
I'll never, for the life of me know how, and nobody seems to have a picture of his wife, but THIS is his Sister-in Law.
I already addressed the piece of garbage that posted it at alan colmes web site.
Just saying...
Sorry, it was directed at the person with the italicized text... It really pi$$ed me off.
The nuts on the left know this was a great pick and are doing everything in their 38 year old - stuck in their parents’ basement blogging on the internets amidst a pile of twinkies wrappers - lives to try to diminish her.
If you have a special needs child being born, you probably want to do that in a hospital that is equipped for it, not just any podunk hospital in Alaska.
I don’t think Alan Colmes, or a lot of other people, understand just how different Alaska is.
Note that NONE Of those criticisms would be levelled at a man — they are all sexist attacks.
They claimed they did not do search on police records but the poster is now inferring that it was Sarah daughter that had the child. I'll post a link if anyone wants to join in.
Colmes apparently had the nerve to show up tonight. He should be on his knees thanking God for the hurricane, otherwise I think he’d be “uhmming” more than Obama.
http://www.alan.com/2008/08/31/its-about-judgment-stupid/
LOL! babygene! Long time no see! What's happenin'?
They're talking all wrong about our girl Sarah. It's the wrong tone.
They do it again, and we'll have to ... well, see what Christopher Walken has to say about it in Joe Dirt.
I just dont know Martha - Im sure well find out soon enough. I wouldnt rule it out though, nor the possibility that rushing that flight without medical care was a last desperate attempt to lose the baby in an accidental and blame-free way (ie a fundie abortion). Id even accept the possibility that shes just an airhead who didnt give any thought to the consequences of her actions.
Whatever, Id be willing to bet there are some anxious people at McCain HQ waiting for these rumours to be quashed.
I have my money on the mormon if and when the position becomes vacant again :)
You need to cut him some slack.
Remember his role on Fox is to play the part of the resident libtard.
He's quite convincing...don't you agree?
What do you want to bet somebody out there in female Freepdom is enjoying two guys discussing poopy diapers?
When my son got back from Iraq in 2004, he got the opportunity to change his nephew's diaper. Now here is a warrior, fresh from the battlefield, recipient of the ACM, highly skilled with an M-249, who, at one point spent three days under a Euphrates bridge downwind of a very dead enemy. When this harden soldier who had experienced the horrors of war exposed that diaper to the atmosphere, his gag reflex took over and he sought shelter in another part of the house. I guess his CBN training didn't cover poopy diapers.
*snif*
So Colmes is part of the Obama/Axelrod smear machine driving this vicious rumor, eh?
Figures.
Alaska has good hospitals, depending on where they’re located, of course. In Wasilla and Anchorage she wouldn’t have had to go too far for good health care. Four of my grandchildren have been born in Anchorage hospitals.
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