Skip to comments.Saudi women preaching hate in the British mosque that promised to clean up its act 18 months ago
Posted on 08/31/2008 8:22:59 AM PDT by Stoat
Hardline female preachers of hate are radicalising Muslim women at one of Britains top mosques.
The Saudi Arabian preachers were secretly filmed ordering women to murder gays and ex-Muslims.
Undercover reporters from Channel 4s Dispatches recorded the lectures in the womens section of Regents Park Mosque in London.
An unnamed Saudi woman is seen mocking other religions labelling Christianity vile and an abomination. Another, known as Angelique, claims Britain is a land of evil.
Undercover: Regent's Park Mosque was at the centre on an investigation
The investigators attended lectures for two months at the mosque, which had promised a clean-up after another Dispatches probe just 18 months ago exposed it for spreading extreme Islamic views.
During one sermon, a woman called Um Amira says: He is Muslim, and he gets out of Islam...what are we going to do? We kill him, kill, kill.
In the programme, to be screened tomorrow, she adds that women adulterers should be stoned to death and people who have sex before marriage should get 100 lashes.
Regents Park Mosque is one of the biggest and most prestigious Islamic institutions in the UK. Opened in 1944 by King George VI, it can hold up to 5,000 worshippers.
After the 2007 Dispatches investigation, which also looked at mosques in Birmingham, West Midlands Police and the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) claimed Channel 4 had distorted sermons and tried to press charges.
But watchdog Ofcom dismissed their findings and Channel 4 won six-figure libel damages from the police and CPS.
This time, Dispatches returned to Regents Park Mosque to find exactly the same extremist books on sale there and the female preachers spreading radical Wahhabi Islam.
One Saudi woman, who mocks other religions, says: We feel nothing sometimes going past the church. What they say with their tongues is so vile and disgusting, its an abomination.
Another female preacher, Um Saleem, says it breaks her heart to see Muslims working in banks, wearing short sleeves...and make-up.
The man in charge of the mosque, Dr Ahmed Al Dubayan, is Islamic Affairs attaché to the Saudi Embassy. Dispatches claims the mosque has links to the Saudi government, which it accuses of spending billions spreading the Wahhabi message. The Saudi Embassy denied this.
Dr Al Dubayan said he did not know the preachers in the documentary and claimed the mosque does not support or condone extreme views.
A year-and-a-half after the critically-acclaimed film Undercover Mosque was first screened, Dispatches goes undercover again to see whether extremist beliefs continue to be promoted in certain key British Muslim institutions. The film also investigates the role of the Saudi Arabian religious establishment in spreading a hard-line, fundamentalist Islamic ideology in the UK - the very ideology the Government claims to be tackling.
A female reporter attends prayer meetings at an important British mosque which claims to be dedicated to moderation and dialogue with other faiths. She secretly films shocking sermons given to the women-only congregation in which female preachers recite extremist and intolerant beliefs. As hundreds of women and some children come to pray, a preacher calls for adulterers, homosexuals, women who act like men and Muslim converts to other faiths to be killed, saying: "Kill him, kill him. You have to kill him, you understand. This is Islam."
Worshippers are repeatedly told they must lead separate lives from non-believers and not tolerate other religions. Christian teachings are described as "vile and disgusting, an abomination." And at private, invite-only prayer meetings linked to the mosque, the reporter films the leading preacher from the women's prayer circle issuing strict dictats on women's personal freedoms - decreeing they must not travel far without a male member of the family to escort them, and instructing them not to integrate with British society or work in a non-Islamic environment.
In the same mosque, the reporter visits the bookshop and discovers books and DVDs still on sale, promoting extremist, anti-Semitic, misogynistic and intolerant messages. Unbelievers ('kuffaars') are described in one DVD as: "Evil, wicked, mischievous people - you can see the evil in their face". Whilst Jews, "have abominated, filthy, disgusting gross belief - their time will come like every other evil person's time will come." Moderate Muslims and Islamic academics tell Dispatches they reject and condemn these teachings. Dispatches traces the links between the teachings and materials at the mosque and the Saudi Arabian religious establishment, and examines the extent to which Saudi Arabia exports such teachings around the world through the funding of literature, schools, mosques and other organisations.
Dispatches also interviews a former teacher at a Saudi-run faith school who describes how the official Saudi educational curriculum was taught in the school. He shows Dispatches official Saudi textbooks from the school which featured anti-Semitic and anti-Christian teachings.
As part of the investigation, the undercover reporter also films inside a key Saudi-funded Muslim organisation which claims to promote tolerance and integration yet distributes literature which promotes intolerance for non-Muslims, an extreme version of Sharia law and teachings which support discrimination against women.
The Government claims Saudi Arabia is its partner in tackling extremism, but a former Foreign Office Minister tells Dispatches he believes the Government should take a stronger line. The film also features interviews with Islamic academics who condemn these messages of intolerance and segregation and warn of the impact this version of Islam is having on British society. One imam at a leading university accuses the Saudi religious establishment of the: "distortion of Islam itself, the abuse and misuse of this great faith of mine and not only mine but of my children as well."
When will this stupid world learn about these freaks? You let them in, AND THIS IS ALWAYS what happens. They are trouble from the start, and it will never stop.
You want peace? THROW THEM OUT.
Muslim outrage at Channel 4 film prompts new inquiry by watchdog
they need to do more videos like this and get the word out to what is really happening in these mosques and the muslim community
There is a law now in England which states you cannot incite hatred, remember England doesn’t have free speech like America.
The these people should be arrested and sent back to their country, no appeals , lawyers or anything, just get on a place go home and be banned
One naturally wonders how much of this is also going on here in the USA.
happening a lot remember the school in VA but the trouble is that reporters are so lazy in America that they just concentrate on looking for dirt on Palin and not doing investigative reporting on issues like this
However they do not apply it to all that preach hate such as that mosque.
One naturally wonders how much of this is also going on here in the USA.
And you can imagine, with qualification, where it would go, under an Obama administration. A mosque next to every McDonalds?
I would like little more than an open war with these people. The fact of the matter is that they have declared war on us, they have murdered and destoyed millions of people all over the world who have refused to submit to their will. Historically, Islam is a virus that invades, makes slaves of the conquered and giving them the choice to either join Islam, die, or pay the jizya. As soon as one submits to Islam, they join their ‘masters’ and can beat upon the dhimmi’s too.
Slavery is supported by Islam, and a slave trade is alive and well in Somalia and elsewhere. All supported by Islam. They come here, boasting how they are amassing to overthrow and destroy our way of life.
But, due to the very laws that protect us; we are forced to tolerate the vipers in our midst. Now, I have learned to hate them; when I saw them dancing in the streets, not just in the middle east, but all over the world on 9-11 - I learned a harsh lesson. No matter what calamity struck these animals, you NEVER saw Americans dancing in the streets due to their misfortune. These were countries who receive BILLIONS of our taxdollars, celebrating the murder of 3,000 innocent Americans.
Let’s just have an open war, and get it over with. It will last about a week; and we can purge this scourge from the earth and the next 3-4 generations will be safe. Or we can do nothing and see what happens - I see no need to wait, as I can read the history books.
Picked up the following article somewhere:
> A German’s View on Islam
> A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
‘Very few people were true Nazis,’ he said, ‘but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.’
> We are told again and again by ‘experts’ and ‘talking heads’ that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace.
Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant.
It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectra of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
> The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide.
It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who
take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
> The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the ‘silent majority,’ is
cowed and extraneous.
> Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
> China’s huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed
to kill a staggering 70 million people.
> The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
> And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were ‘peace loving’?
> History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:
Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don’t speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
> Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans,
Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
> As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Inciting to kill is not protected free speech. But isn’t it just wonderful how our spineless leaders turn a blind eye of political correctness to this Islamic psychopathy and indeed attack the messenger as noted with the police civil malfeasance?
I would actually like to see this and I am serious
Certain cults are banned in countries in Europe so why has not the Islam cult, it is doing nothing but causing hostility and hatred against the native people thus they want to take over
muslims know this and take advantage,
Even in England a party is made legally, they then gain votes and now more of the party is getting elected and what do we have, yes the Govt along with the likes of the BBC have been trying to close down a legal political party
Open war with these people is coming to this country... it’s only a question of what will trigger it.
I suspect that once suicide bombers start showing up in malls, schools and other public venues the tipping point will have been reached. The police will not be able to stop Joe American from settling the score.
Those law are intended for use against whites.
Because Islam has the BIG MONEY with which to buy our politicians.
And the oil to buy US.
it is that country which is building all these big mosques like the one near the Vatican and yet they do not allow other religions to exist there
About time we said no to them
Although the Evening Standard has, for some unknown reason, pulled this article from their site (as has the Daily Mail) the complete broadcast of Undercover Mosque: The Return is available for viewing in five parts on Youtube:
YouTube - UnderCover Mosque The Return. 15
I wonder if The Standard and The Mail received threats? I wrote a letter to the Mail (I couldn't find a contact address for The Evening Standard), very politely asking why their article was pulled and will post any reply I receive here.
Please don't hold your breath waiting, however. I fully expect to be ignored by the Mail.
At times like this I am so very grateful to Free Republic for still allowing articles from a very few sources to be posted unedited and in their entirety, as is still their policy for the Evening Standard, at least for the time being. This allows Free Republic to serve as a time capsule and a source of record despite efforts by mainstream, driveby media sources to change history and alter the published record.
I’ll have a look at that later tonight when I have time thanks stoat mate
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