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Obama Document Motion Denied (full story) [Berg's petition to stop nomination - "Certifigate"]
Times Herald (London) ^ | Aug. 28, 2008 | Keith Phucas

Posted on 08/28/2008 3:35:57 PM PDT by Dajjal

PHILADELPHIA - A Lafayette Hill lawyer who filed a legal challenge to Sen. Barack Obama's presidential candidacy claiming he doesn't meet U.S. residency requirements had a motion for a temporary restraining order denied Friday.

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Though the motion was denied, Berg said he was encouraged that Judge R. Barclay Surrick did not dismiss the lawsuit. The litigation also sought "expedited discovery." "We're still waiting to serve the senator," Berg said in a telephone interview Wednesday. Discovery would include examining the candidate's birth certificate and adoption papers, among other documents, Berg said.

Besides Obama, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Federal Election Commission (FEC) are also named as defendants.

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Once the senator is served, Berg will be able to move the suit forward in court. The case is still "very alive and active," according to an e-mail message from his office.

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(Excerpt) Read more at timesherald.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; barrydunham; barrysoetoro; berg; bergvobama; birthcertificate; blueturban; certifigate; citizenship; clinton; colb; colbaquiddic; democrats; denver; dnc; dunham; hillary; lawsuit; obama; obamacolb; obamafamily; obamatruth; obamatruthfile; passport; philberg; philipberg; puma; pumas; soetoro
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To: pissant
To date I have not seen any documentation that he is qualified to be President.

The key part. “Judge R. Barclay Surrick did not dismiss the lawsuit”. Let's see the evidence.

21 posted on 08/28/2008 4:35:33 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Dajjal
When Barry turns 18, he can regain his US citizenship if he goes before a judge or authority and renounces the foreign citizenship and swears a Loyalty Oath to the USA.

And a lotta people suspect that Barry mighta sorta forgot to do this.

22 posted on 08/28/2008 4:37:08 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Dajjal

If I’m not mistaken, papers in a federal suit can be served by a U.S. Marshal, who’d have far better access than the typical process server.


23 posted on 08/28/2008 4:38:12 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Dajjal

As I understand it Kenya has a law referred to as the
“Right of Soil” and “Right of Blood”. Therefore anyone born on Kenyan soil or due a Kenyan citizen is a citizen of Kenya. Either in Kenya or in Hawaii Obami is a Kenyan citizen via his biological father. The plot thickens....


24 posted on 08/28/2008 4:38:49 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Dajjal
The misreading of the law occurs when they neglect the fact that the law simply does not recognize his or anyone else's assertion on his behalf of a foreign citizenship UNTIL HE IS 18.

His stepdad and Indonesia could bring in a thousand flying garudas, six Greek Naids, and a partridge in a pear tree and NONE of that would count.

25 posted on 08/28/2008 4:39:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: conservativegramma

correction: “TO” a Kenyan Citizen (Darn fingers)


26 posted on 08/28/2008 4:39:38 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Dajjal
Look, he doesn't have to swear anything. He was not 18. He didn't renounce his American citizenship. Nothing happened.

What other people did is irrelevant!

27 posted on 08/28/2008 4:40:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cookcounty

But a green card is not the same thing as citizenship and citizenship is not the same as natural born citizenship.

If they were born in the US then they would not be returning with a green card. They are US citizens.


28 posted on 08/28/2008 4:58:58 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: microgood
"If he was born in Hawaii, and he was adopted in Indonesia by Lolo Soetoro, (Obama) would lose his citizenship," Berg said.

This seems strange to me.

Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship(unlike the US which does)and to become an Indonesian citizen you must renounce any others. Obama's stepfather or mother would have had to renounce Obama's because he was to young to do it himself, nonetheless he could not become a citizen of Indonesia and remain a citizen of the US.

29 posted on 08/28/2008 4:59:04 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Dajjal

If there were any legs to all of this the Clinton’s would have been all over it like white on rice during the primary and Hilary would be the nominee. There is no way that ruthless politicians with legal teams and opposition researchers as good as their’s would fail to jump on this particularly when the rumors were already out there.


30 posted on 08/28/2008 5:01:16 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: muawiyah
Look, he doesn't have to swear anything. He was not 18. He didn't renounce his American citizenship. Nothing happened. What other people did is irrelevant!

What he has to do is prove he was born in Hawaii as he claims. He hasn't done that yet. You would think he would welcome this court case and a chance to put this behind him, IF he was born in the US, the only reason I can see that he has planted fake COLBs on the internet(twice,one without number, the same one done over with number)is because he has no original BC to show. Needs to be clarified, the burden of proof is on him, not us.

31 posted on 08/28/2008 5:08:04 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship(unlike the US which does)and to become an Indonesian citizen you must renounce any others. Obama's stepfather or mother would have had to renounce Obama's because he was to young to do it himself, nonetheless he could not become a citizen of Indonesia and remain a citizen of the US.

Indonesia may believe he is not a US Citizen, but it only matters if the US does. Its sounds like from other posts, it does not matter what happened to him before 18, only he can denounce his citizenship as far as the US is concerned.
32 posted on 08/28/2008 5:10:13 PM PDT by microgood
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To: calex59

You have to grab the attention of the courts, or ICE, first.


33 posted on 08/28/2008 5:12:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dajjal

There is something more to all this than whats on the surface because none of what is known would make someone HIDE this information.
Its what is still hidden that is the problem for Nobama-thats what needs to be discovered-

He just isn’t WHO he says he is, thats the reason for the forged certificate. no telling what his mom really did-and who this person claiming to be Obama REALLY IS-


34 posted on 08/28/2008 5:17:57 PM PDT by okokie
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To: mnehrling

“Wouldn’t it be funny if he was served papers tonight on stage?”

I was thinking the same.


35 posted on 08/28/2008 6:01:12 PM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: DemonDeac
If there were any legs to all of this the Clinton’s would have been all over it like white on rice during the primary and Hilary would be the nominee. There is no way that ruthless politicians with legal teams and opposition researchers as good as their’s would fail to jump on this particularly when the rumors were already out there.

With all due respect to Her Thighness, she seems to have run a pretty shoddy campaign in many respects -- dirty tricks being one of them.

It was neither the Hillary campaign nor "deniable" minions that exposed Rev. Wright, or William Ayers, or to Frank Marshall Davis, or ties to Muslim terrorists, etc.

To date, neither side has exposed Obama's ties to Shepard Fairey.

So much for Hillary's "researchers" and "strong arm" tactics.

I also believe that -- even up to the last minute -- Hillary hoped that if she could just persuade a few super delegates to win the top slot, she would choose BHO as her running mate. Hence she wanted to defeat him, but not knock him off the field.

36 posted on 08/28/2008 6:09:24 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Dajjal

The naysayers to this suit who attempt to refute individual parts of it either err in their evaluation of their chosen single-item, or miss the overall thrust of the case: Berg is using a “shotgun” assault on Hussein’s dubious eligibility by simultaneously attacking and demanding investigation of every single questionable and murky, flimsy legal claim Hussein has to purported “natural born citizenship.”

There is the apparently forged COLB on the Daily Kos and Obama websites.

There is the birth certificate reported to have been found in Mombasa, Kenya, last February by GOP operatives issued for a Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., dated Aug. 4th, 1961.

There is the Indonesian exclusive(as opposed to dual) citizenship based on Hussein’s residency, school enrollment, and Soretoro adoption.

There is the absence of documentation of re-establishing U.S. citizenship by swearing an oath at a consulate or embassy, etc., assuming any erstwhile U.S. citizenship in the first place.

There is the trip to Pakistan in 1981, presumably on an Indonesian passport.

There is the comprehensive issue of divided loyalties among two foreign nations and the U.S., even if Hawaiian birth can be “proved.”

There is the history of the intelligence agencies of Kenya, Indonesia, Britain, Australia(and who knows who else) having extensive files on Hussein’s parents, based on the communist activities/agitation of both in past years...this indicates a grave liability that our POTUS could be subject to blackmail by foreign governments, and so on.

The point being, Berg’s case is highly compelling if for no other reason that there is SO much smoke that the judiciary has no choice but to send every engine/hook-and-ladder company and firedog in a 100-mile radius to what just may turn out to be the Chicago Fire itself.

Berg may be a 9/11 conspiracy whackjob(part of his CV other than former Deputy Attorney General for Pennsylvania), but as far as this case goes, I think he’s right on and has my total support. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s at least in part a Clinton proxy—he’s as much as plainly said so.

I just pray that he stops Hussein, the N.O.I. sleeper.


37 posted on 08/29/2008 9:14:41 AM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: VigilantAmerican

Welcome, Vigilant! I read your “resume”, and think you forgot a few things!

But, it isn’t good form for a Mom to brag, so I won’t!

Freepers, especially you old-timers, send Vigilant a hearty Freeper welcome! He isn’t your typical “noob”.


38 posted on 08/29/2008 10:28:31 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: VigilantAmerican
An excellent summary!

And a big WELCOME to FreeRepublic!


39 posted on 08/29/2008 2:11:32 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: jacquej; VigilantAmerican

Well, that’s about as cool as it gets, having your son log on as a freeper. Welcome to Free Republic. That’s something that they didn’t use to say to us when I first joined because we were all newbies.


40 posted on 08/29/2008 2:52:21 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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