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If he wins, Obama will revisit NAFTA
Milenio ^ | August 27, 2008 | Unknown, my translation

Posted on 08/28/2008 9:10:59 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

Denver -- Barack Obama’s foreign policy advisor for the Western Hemisphere, Frank Sanchez, said Wednesday it is natural that a new government would want to review an agreement that has been in operation several years.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama will review the NAFTA free trade agreement with Mexico and Canada to improve it, once he is elected, Sanchez said. “We need to take a close look at NAFTA and see how to improve it...”

The subject of NAFTA arose here in the Democratic National Convention within the framework of the Political Platform approved unanimously this past Monday. It authorizes Obama to negotiate amendments to the agreement with Mexico and Canada to bring about “migratory reform” and describes enforcement of the current immigration law, raids, as cruel to the undocumented…


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: foreignpolicy; illegalimmigration; nafta; trade
I can only imagine what their idea of "migratory reform" is. Probably looks and sounds a lot like a blanket amnesty. And wonder what Bill Clinton thinks about Obama "renegotiating" the growning glory of his administration's foreign policy initiatives?
1 posted on 08/28/2008 9:11:00 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

Obama to Unions - thanks for your support.

- renegotiate NAFTA
- immediate unionization of 200k Govt TSA employees
- will ban secret balloting for unionization votes
- will further loosen rules on Union PAC contributions.


2 posted on 08/28/2008 9:15:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: 3AngelaD

There are quite a few here on FR that think this would be a good thing!

(I’m not one of them)


3 posted on 08/28/2008 9:17:17 AM PDT by Artemis Webb ("The church is near, but the road is icy. The bar is far away, but I will walk carefully.")
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To: 3AngelaD

What is Obama gonna do, unilaterally re-negotiate a contract? Good luck with that!


4 posted on 08/28/2008 9:20:16 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: 3AngelaD

That large sucking sound you hear, presently centered in Denver, is Obama’s economic policy.


5 posted on 08/28/2008 9:29:41 AM PDT by Gritty-Kitty
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To: 3AngelaD
"revisit NAFTA"

What a coward. Leave enough ambiguity to do nothing. In other words he doesn't give a shit one way or another about NAFTA but knows voters do. Let the voter put his own desires on Obama and make them his. Puke.

6 posted on 08/28/2008 9:32:17 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: 3AngelaD; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ..

7 posted on 08/28/2008 9:32:20 AM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Artemis Webb

Stephen Harper said he would be happy to renegotiate.

He’d like a better deal for Canada. ;-)


8 posted on 08/28/2008 9:33:47 AM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: normy

To be perfectly fair, that was my translation. It could also be said to read “review NAFTA.” Did you see anything about this in the English-language press? I didn’t. But what he is telling the Mexican media, with a wink and a nudge, is that he wants to legalize all the illegals, and make it easier for the rest of the Mexican population to immigrate here.


9 posted on 08/28/2008 9:44:01 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD
Whether he said review or revisit it doesn't matter. To the unions it can mean "oh Obama is going to review Nafta and help our union brother keep their jobs by stopping Mexican imports and trucking. To Mexicans it can mean" look Obama is going to make it easier for our goods to get into the US and for our families to come or remain there."

That is the point of saying "revisit or review".

10 posted on 08/28/2008 9:53:32 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Guess he missed the revised growth for the previous quarter, based in big part, by exports.


11 posted on 08/28/2008 9:55:10 AM PDT by Carley
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To: fanfan
Stephen Harper said he would be happy to renegotiate.

He’d like a better deal for Canada. ;-)

And with the high price of oil and the democrats determination to prevent us from using our own oil, Canada would be in a much better position in renegotiating NAFTA than we are.

NAFTA was negotiated when we were in a considerably more favorable position. Renegotiating it now would be extremely foolish for us.

12 posted on 08/28/2008 10:00:07 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: 3AngelaD
"And wonder what Bill Clinton thinks about Obama "renegotiating" the crowning glory of his administration's foreign policy initiatives?"

Bush, Mulroney, and Celinas signed NAFTA in December after Clinton was elected.

The democratic congress was not entirely pleased with NAFTA. They thought that it did not have enough protections for labor and environment, but all that they could do was give it either an up or down vote.

Instead, it was decided the Prez Clinton would negotiate a side/parallel agreement to NAFTA that contained the protections. Clinton did this in his first year, both agreements were approved by Congress, and NAFTA became effective the following Jan.

The problem was, the labor and environmental protections that Clinton negotiated in the side agreement turned out to be toothless.

Some democrats said that neither Clinton nor anyone else knew the implications of Chapter 11, so you couldn't blame Clinton.

Some democrats blamed Clinton's misfeasance, saying he shoulda/coulda done a better job.

Some democrats said it was Clinton's malfeasance. That he purposely negotiated a side agreement that was toothless because he was in cahoots with the GOP.

So now they want to renegotiate the NAFTA and put the protections into NAFTA.

13 posted on 08/28/2008 10:06:00 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Artemis Webb
There are quite a few here on FR that think this would be a good thing!
(I’m not one of them)

I'm AM one of 'em. NAFTA is one of the biggest swindles in modern times and has wrecked towns and lives by the fistful as industries headed South for that lovely cheap labor (how come cars made in Mexico aren't cheaper than those made here?).

So, the poor campesios left the farms and headed for the factories, which after a few years, went to China for even cheaper labor. Those campesinos didn't go back to the farms - they headed North.

I recently saw a TV program that showed us importing automobiles and exporting lumber. That what a colony does folks, import manufactured goods and export raw materials. But Hey, "Free Trade" is good - just like Greed (thank you Gordon Gekko)

14 posted on 08/28/2008 11:00:28 AM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: untrained skeptic
Renegotiating it now would be extremely foolish for us.

True, but electing Obama would be extremely foolish as well. Let's hope we don't have to deal with either.

15 posted on 08/28/2008 11:22:46 AM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: 3AngelaD

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t NAFTA a treaty and not just an agreement? If it is a treaty like I think it is I don’t think you can just revisit it, it would have to be trashed and renegoiated in which case the jobs that have been gained from NAFTA would be lost and the jobs that left would not automatically come back here but head for Asia.


16 posted on 08/28/2008 11:28:52 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

Yup.


17 posted on 08/28/2008 11:58:16 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: fanfan

> He’d like a better deal for Canada. ;-)

Recall that NAFTA was actually Phase II of “Free Trade” talks. Phase I was “Free Trade” between Canada and the US. Phase II brought Mexico into the picture.

Obama could very easily repeal NAFTA and leave Free Trade between Canada and the US in place — effectively kicking out Mexico. Speaking personally, I think that would be a fine idea.


18 posted on 08/28/2008 12:07:16 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
effectively kicking out Mexico. Speaking personally, I think that would be a fine idea.

Obama would lose any support from the Hispanics. I doubt he'd do it.

19 posted on 08/28/2008 12:12:44 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: 3AngelaD

Party platforms are sucker bait. Period.

A whole bunch of lawyers sit around and compete at generation of the most flowery, overblown, deliberately vague promises with absolutely no enforceability. Invite ten people to read any paragraph in one of those messes, and you’d get TWENTY wildly divergent interpretations.

....and that’s my opinion of what the Republicans routinely put out.

The traitorcrats? They could print the full text of the Communist Manifesto as their platform and come closer to the truth than anything you’ll read this week.


20 posted on 08/28/2008 12:50:32 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (Dims best pray for Global Warming; "October Surprise" is the September heating bill.)
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