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Chilling News: “Sunspots May Vanish by 2015” (counter CAGW)
National Solar Observatory via icecap.us ^ | August 26, 2008 | William Livingston and Matthew Penn

Posted on 08/28/2008 4:28:18 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty

We have observed spectroscopic changes in temperature sensitive molecular lines, in the magnetic splitting of an Fe I line, and in the continuum brightness of over 1000 sunspot umbrae from 1990-2005. All three measurements show consistent trends in which the darkest parts of the sunspot umbra have become warmer (45K per year) and their magnetic field strengths have decreased (77 Gauss per year), independently of the normal 11-year sunspot cycle. A linear extrapolation of these trends suggests that few sunspots will be visible after 2015.

(Excerpt) Read more at icecap.us ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; cooling; environment; freepun; murphy; science; solarscience; sunspots; warming
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To: ourusa

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41 posted on 08/28/2008 6:44:28 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: Vanders9
I did this before reading you shouldn’t do it and my head DID explode. Great. Now I believe in global warming, the tooth fairy, and am planning to vote for Obama.

Wait, you mean to tell me there is no tooth fairy! Great, just great.

42 posted on 08/28/2008 6:48:35 AM PDT by Jeff F
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To: C210N
There should be very little iron (Fe) in the sun with all that is there coming from the accretion process during the sun's formation.

The creation of iron is the last stage in a very large star's life cycle. It immediately precedes a supernova.

This is a very good article on Stella Evolution from Wikipedia.

This figures into a Science Fiction novel that I am writing.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

43 posted on 08/28/2008 7:01:53 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm
Stella = Stellar

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

44 posted on 08/28/2008 7:03:25 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: thecabal
6 meters is dead. Stick a fork in it.

/johnny

45 posted on 08/28/2008 7:14:35 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Gee this global cooling is just a result of global warming and when the cooling is over it will get warm again. (Sarcasm)


46 posted on 08/28/2008 7:18:37 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Jeff F

You shouldn’t believe everything you read from someone whose head has exploded.


47 posted on 08/28/2008 7:18:54 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“Linear extrapolation is always useful. For example, we should all be paying 200% of our income in taxes by now, and -25% of Americans should be on welfare.”

Linear extrapolation is useful when the data is...linear.

We’ll see how that plays out, but it sure looks linear from 1990-present, which covers over a full solar cycle. The nice thing about this prediction, unlike the “X temperature in 2100” predictions, is we’ll all know how this turns out in our lifetimes. ;-)


48 posted on 08/28/2008 7:37:47 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Charlespg; thecabal

> No sunspots means your Yaseu FT 857d is now a $700 paperweight <

Maybe. But remember that sporadic E propagation tends to be negatively correlated with sunspots. So while the F layer may cease to be operational at HF, there could be increased E layer refraction from ca. 20 mHz upwards.


49 posted on 08/28/2008 7:48:31 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: SampleMan

According to the Goracle we should all be able to smelt lead on sidewalks by the end of the decade.


50 posted on 08/28/2008 7:54:21 AM PDT by Justa (The media lied while Americans died.)
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To: Clioman
I’m not clear on this — can somebody help me? When I make a tinfoil hat, does the shiny side go on the OUTSIDE, or does it go on the INSIDE?

Depends. Are you using the regular foil or the freezer type heavy duty?

51 posted on 08/28/2008 8:05:27 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: 101voodoo

“I’m not clear on this — can somebody help me? When I make a tinfoil hat, does the shiny side go on the OUTSIDE, or does it go on the INSIDE?
Depends. Are you using the regular foil or the freezer type heavy duty?”

Gee, I hadn’t thought about that. So, if Global Cooling is on the way, maybe I should lay in a stock of the heavy duty freezer stuff? On the other hand, if we’re in for some Global Warming, wouldn’t the lightweight foil be more comfortable?


52 posted on 08/28/2008 8:38:54 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks, bfl


53 posted on 08/28/2008 9:11:14 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Paladin2

“No sunspots now” is to be expected; we’re between sunspot cycles.

2015 is late-peak for the next cycle; there should be plenty of sunspots then.

Predicting “no sunspots” at what should be the peak of the next cycle is not exactly a “prediction of current events”.


54 posted on 08/28/2008 9:15:54 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
"Firstly, I’d like to thank Dr. Bruce Cordell over at 21st Century Waves for telling me about an unpublished paper entitled “Sunspots may vanish by 2015,” by William Livingston and Matthew Penn, National Solar Observatory at Kitt Peak. According to Bruce, the paper was submitted to Nature, but promptly turned down after a review."

More Globull Warming censorship.

55 posted on 08/28/2008 9:19:14 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: PreciousLiberty
It truly looks like Al Gore will be exposed as an idiot in the near term. Let's hope it doesn't take a major global disaster to do it!

He'll blame the shortage of sunspots on global warming, claim that things are worse than even he thought, and demand even more government programs to prevent people from being flash frozen where they stand like in the movie he consulted on.

56 posted on 08/28/2008 9:51:07 AM PDT by PsyOp (Put government in charge of tire pressure, and we'll soon have a shortage of air. - PsyOp.)
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To: 6ppc
"Don't ever use two layers with the shiny sides together! The waves will get trapped between them and start resonating which will cause your head to explode! ;^)"

That's why you need to wrap your head in duct tape first before applying the two layers with the shiny sides together.

57 posted on 08/28/2008 9:54:33 AM PDT by penowa
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To: pierrem15

‘”Firstly, I’d like to thank Dr. Bruce Cordell over at 21st Century Waves for telling me about an unpublished paper entitled “Sunspots may vanish by 2015,” by William Livingston and Matthew Penn, National Solar Observatory at Kitt Peak. According to Bruce, the paper was submitted to Nature, but promptly turned down after a review.”’

I’d like to see the reviewers explanation for rejecting this paper. Looks legit to me.

Science is great, opinion or wishful thinking posing as science - not so much.


58 posted on 08/28/2008 10:05:50 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

btt


59 posted on 08/28/2008 2:26:17 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: PreciousLiberty

This article (like the Global Warming Alarmists) is like someone going up the hill on a rollercoaster and predicting it will be launched into outer space.


60 posted on 08/28/2008 2:28:31 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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