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Davis warns of a new civil war with Southern states [Mexican Influence][Democrat][NY]
The Buffalo News ^ | 25 Aug 2008 | Jerry Zremski

Posted on 08/27/2008 3:25:50 PM PDT by BGHater

Candidate for 26th Congressionial district sees possibility of secession due to Mexican immigrants

WASHINGTON — Congressional candidate Jack Davis, in a speech earlier this year, warned that increasing immigration from Mexico could lead to a new civil war between northern states and Mexican-influenced Southern states that may want to secede from the United States.

“In the latter part of this century or the next, Mexicans will be a majority in many of the states and could therefore take control of the state government using the democratic process,” Davis said in the speech. “They could then secede from the United States, and then we might have another civil war.”

A supporter of one of Davis’ rivals for the Democratic nomination in the 26th district, Jon Powers, posted the video to YouTube. The Powers campaign alerted The Buffalo News to the Davis video.

The YouTube video is labeled as a speech Davis gave at the Center for Inquiry in Amherst on Feb. 1, but a center press release indicates that he spoke there on March 19.

No matter when he spoke, Davis could not have made his point of view on Mexican immigrants any clearer.

“They have an allegiance to Mexico, where they were taught the U. S. fought an unjust war with Mexico and took this territory,” Davis said. “They believe the territory of these states belongs to Mexico.”

Davis did not name specific states that might be prone to succession.

But he appeared to be referring to Texas — which seceded from Mexico, briefly became an independent republic and then joined the United States — and the territories Mexico lost as a result of the Mexican-American War of 1846-48. California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico and much of Colorado were all once Mexican territory, only to become U. S. states after the war.

Asked this week about his speech, Davis said he no longer believed Southern states would be prone to leaving the union in order to assert Mexican control over what is now U. S. territory.

“I think they’ll do it without a civil war,” he said. “They’ll take control of the state governments and start voting themselves anything they want.”

The video of the Davis speech was posted to YouTube on April 14 by Robert Harding, a blogger at the Albany Project blog who supports Powers. He said the video was provided to him by someone who attended the speech.

Powers’ campaign manager, John Gerken, said the speech was very telling.

“I think Jack Davis’ rant says it all: He thinks we are going to go to war with California and Arizona,” Gerken said. “This is probably why his handlers won’t let him debate and hide him from the press.”

Alice Kryzan, an environmental lawyer who is also running for the Democratic nomination to face Republican Christopher Lee in the race to replace retiring Rep. Thomas

M. Reynolds, R-Clarence, was equally critical of Davis.

“Many of these comments are wrong and offensive,” she said. “We should address our illegal problems thoughtfully, not by demonizing anyone.”

Meanwhile, a top official at the National Council of La Raza, the nation’s leading Hispanic organization, termed Davis’ comments “extremely offensive.”

“He’s feeding an environment of intolerance that doesn’t distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants,” said Clarissa Martinez, director of immigration and national campaigns for the organization. “He’s presenting our whole community as invaders — people who want to take over the country.”

In fact, Davis in his speech, said: “Our country has been invaded, occupied and settled by 10 million illegal aliens.”

Davis issued a statement Friday, trying to clarify his earlier comments.

“My remarks at the Center were designed to bring urgency to the conversation,” he said in the statement. “I believe passionately in protecting our homeland and securing our borders. If my language was hyperbolic, the danger it described certainly is not.”

In the Thursday interview where he discussed the speech, Davis said he didn’t recall everything he had said in the speech.

But among the topics he discussed in the speech was his solution for the illegal immigration problem.

“I think building a double wall long the southern border is the least expensive long-term solution to maintaining the heritage of our fathers,” Davis said in the speech on YouTube.

Davis, a 75-year-old Akron industrialist who has vowed to spend $3 million of his own money on the congressional race, plans to stay on the ballot in November — on his new “Save Jobs and Farms Party” line — even if he loses the Democratic primary.

Many Western New York farmers rely on migrant workers from Mexico to bring in the crops.

After hearing quotes from Davis’ speech, John Lincoln, the president of the New York Farm Bureau, said: “The farmers overall would be really concerned about his statement.”

Told what Lincoln said, Davis replied: “He’s not a regular farmer. He’s one of these big guys . . . I’d call him a multinational farmer.”

Lincoln, 70, is a dairy farmer with 200 head of cattle in Bloomfield, a village of 1,258 in Ontario County, southeast of Rochester. Asked if he had ever met Lincoln, Davis said he had not.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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Link has video.

Some snips.

“They have an allegiance to Mexico, where they were taught the U. S. fought an unjust war with Mexico and took this territory,” Davis said. “They believe the territory of these states belongs to Mexico.”

“I think they’ll do it without a civil war,” he said. “They’ll take control of the state governments and start voting themselves anything they want.”

From a Repub.

M. Reynolds, R-Clarence, was equally critical of Davis.

“Many of these comments are wrong and offensive,” she said. “We should address our illegal problems thoughtfully, not by demonizing anyone.”

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In fact, Davis in his speech, said: “Our country has been invaded, occupied and settled by 10 million illegal aliens.”

Davis issued a statement Friday, trying to clarify his earlier comments.

“My remarks at the Center were designed to bring urgency to the conversation,” he said in the statement. “I believe passionately in protecting our homeland and securing our borders. If my language was hyperbolic, the danger it described certainly is not.”

1 posted on 08/27/2008 3:25:51 PM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

In 1917 German offered Mexico help is a war with U.S. to reclaim territory. Mexico turned them down. Remissions from Mexicans in the U.S. back to Mexico is a significant part of the Mexican economy. Would they even want those territories back?


2 posted on 08/27/2008 3:28:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: BGHater

I want to secede for a lot of reasons...one of which is that the federal government is doing nothing to stem the tide of the illegal invasion.


3 posted on 08/27/2008 3:31:37 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: BGHater

“They could then secede from the United States,... “

Then they would again be,......Mexico? From which they would turn into the same POS that the rest of their stinking, worthless country is from which they would have to flee Northward again?

Sounds like a brilliant plan.

If the Southwest “secedes” from the rest of the US, I’m buying more ammo and calling for the American government to call up the military and the National Guard to retake the states.


4 posted on 08/27/2008 3:38:31 PM PDT by garyhope (It's world war IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam. VRWC. TWP.)
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To: BGHater
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5 posted on 08/27/2008 3:40:22 PM PDT by homeguard (Join or Die)
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To: BGHater
“I think they’ll do it without a civil war,” he said. “They’ll take control of the state governments and start voting themselves anything they want.”

Wow! It's true, nothing is new. This idea is already in use by the socialists (Democrats).

6 posted on 08/27/2008 3:49:58 PM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: BGHater

If the commies start a civil war, it isn’t going to be with Illegals - it’s going to be with patriots. I’d expect the Illegals to take sides with the left since that’s where their free ride is coming from.


7 posted on 08/27/2008 3:53:21 PM PDT by meyer (...by any means necessary.)
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To: BGHater

Discussed yesterday here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2068396/posts


8 posted on 08/27/2008 4:04:24 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring; Admin Moderator

Dam again. Weird.

civil war as a title search got back nada.

AM

Already posted.


9 posted on 08/27/2008 4:07:04 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: BGHater

“Title Search” hasn’t worked for several days.

I’d leave this one up - the other was posted yesterday.


10 posted on 08/27/2008 4:08:45 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Thx. Didn’t get the memo on the title search.


11 posted on 08/27/2008 4:10:57 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: BGHater

It was “Left as an exercise for the student”.


12 posted on 08/27/2008 4:15:41 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: BGHater
Congressional candidate Jack Davis, in a speech earlier this year, warned that increasing immigration from Mexico could lead to a new civil war between northern states and Mexican-influenced Southern states that may want to secede from the United States.

'Scuse me?? Talk about not knowing who the h@ll he's talking about . . . . . We, in the south, are a little more anxious to send our illegal Mexican invaders home sooner than many in the north. This dude needs to spend a little money an buy vowels AND consonants so he can get a clue!!

13 posted on 08/27/2008 4:23:37 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment

If it continues at the current pace the man is dead on the money!! Have you been to Texas lately?
It will happen but, not in your life time.

Good friends the USA is not as secure as you are being told.

But, what is poverty without money?
The current democratic party in the USA is doing everything in their power to run the money out of America.
They are doing a very good job!
The jobs you see now days is mostly at fast food restaurants, and strip malls.


14 posted on 08/27/2008 4:43:23 PM PDT by Bigmouthbass
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To: BGHater

this just shows his ignorance of the southwest.

not going to happen.

mexicans want to participate in the american economy to better themselves.

many middle class mexicans own homes on this side of the border because of the increasing narco-terrorism in mexico.

they view this side as safe and the last thing they would want would be to destroy that safety by making their american homes mexican territory.

during the mexican revolution mexicans took safety in the u.s. as they are doing today.


15 posted on 08/27/2008 4:45:47 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21
What you say makes sense on the face of it.

Until you look at this contingent:


16 posted on 08/27/2008 4:55:46 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

If the US keeps going leftest, legitimatizes gay marriage (and makes teaching of it mandatory); restricts free speech; arrests pastors who oppose abortion; gets a Supreme Court that declares (a la Ginsburg) that sex for girls at age 12 is just fine; etc. . . .

then actually being part of Mexico may start to look pretty good.

Either that, or a Chechnaya solution (secede and/or join with Chihuahua, Sonora, and both Bajas, to form a new country).


17 posted on 08/27/2008 5:12:48 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: BGHater

Exactly why I have guns!


18 posted on 08/27/2008 5:47:15 PM PDT by ScudBud
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To: DuncanWaring

they are small group of nuts located in the universities. their majors prepare graduates to do nothing.

mexicans with brains want degrees that will get them jobs.

they started with a professor at cal state northridge, rodolfo acuna.

http://www.csun.edu/~hfchs006/


19 posted on 08/27/2008 5:52:42 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: BGHater

Ludicrous article.


20 posted on 08/27/2008 8:39:44 PM PDT by robert david (John McCain = America's last hope)
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