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Rioting after McCain wins. Was this prophetic?
Fredoneverything.net ^ | 2001 | Fred Reed

Posted on 08/27/2008 1:31:57 PM PDT by RobRoy

Pondering The Black Underclass

Not Colin Powell And The Cosbys

The recent race war in Cincinnati -- which is what it was -- might reasonably lead one to ponder the black underclass, its nature, behavior, crimes, and intentions toward whites. Permit me a few unpleasant observations, inescapable after years on the police beat:

Crime by the underclass is racial, predatory, and very much targeted against whites. The motive is hatred more often than economic gain. The media carefully, systematically, by deliberate policy, hide these things.

The foregoing can be independently verified by anyone. The data are there, on the Internet.

During the Cincinnati riots, I heard through police back-channels of blacks pulling white women from cars and beating them. I didn't write about it. If I had quoted my sources, they would have been fired for talking. Without sources, I'd have been dismissed as engaging in racist fantasy.

But then, on April 23, the columnist John Leo of US News and World Report broke journalistic ranks. * He wrote of one white woman (probably the one I'd heard about) who was attacked and beaten. More chillingly, he reported that "Another driver assaulted by the mob was Roslyn Jones, an albino black woman, hit by a hail of bricks, one of which struck her in the head. The attack stopped when someone shouted, 'She's black!'" (My italics.)

It's racial, people.

Rioting blacks regularly beat whites. We know about Reginald Denny, kicked into brain damage by gangs of blacks in LA. Similar instances have occurred from Los Angeles to Dade County to Cincinnati. All were quickly buried by the media. On the streets of Washington I have myself seen whites swarmed and beaten bloody on two occasions -- two young Australian tourists walking in Georgetown, for example.

The viciousness merits attention. Whites kids riot, yes, usually about politics. They run excitedly about, get arrested and gassed, wave signs, and assuage their hormones. They do not stomp people. White college kids do not grab an official of the IMF, kick him until he hemorrhages to death, and laugh.

The underclass does. When urban blacks surround a car, pull out a terrified woman they believe to be white, and hit her in the head with bricks, they're not playing. They want to hurt, cripple, kill. That's what bricks do.

The underclass is what we have in the cities. One day it will come out. We won't like it. They are not the nice black family down the street with the two polite kids and a Toyota. They are something very different.

In the recent Mardi Gras riots in Seattle, gangs of blacks again attacked whites. So many people saw it, and got it on videotape, that the media couldn't quite hide it. For example, blacks attacked a white woman, after which a young white guy tried to help her. They stomped him to death.** Press was minimal. Can you imagine the furor if whites had attacked a black woman, and murdered a black rescuer?

The media, again, are consciously lying about race. It is lying by crafted omission, by artful editing, but it is lying. If the police stop too many blacks on the highway, coverage is national and unending. If the underclass stomps a white to death, a hush follows.

Examples abound. In Wichita this year*** two black men captured five young whites at gunpoint, forced them to perform various sexual acts on them and each other, of course raped the women, and then killed them all, execution style, except for one woman. Bleeding and naked, she walked through the snow for help.

Two things: First, the motive was hatred. You can rob people without harming them. The attackers intended to humiliate and kill. Second, note the near perfect suppression of the story. If you heard about it at all, it was probably on the Internet.

The hatred of the underclass for whites is not new. Neither is the targeting of white women. In the Sixties the rapist and Black Panther Eldridge Cleaver wrote at length in Soul On Ice (chapter one), of the underclass black's desire to attack white women. Don't believe me. Read it.

The foregoing anecdotes are just that -- anecdotes. The Department of Justice, however, collects data on crime -- the Uniform Crime Reports,**** the National Crime Victimization Survey, ***** and so on. The author Jared Taylor ****** analyzed these figures and found that a black is 55 times as likely to attack a white than vice versa, 103 times as likely to rob, 40 times as likely to rape a white woman than a white man is to rape a black woman, and 237 times as likely to gang up on whites to rob them.

This will be unbelievable to many. But check the numbers for yourself.

Now, I will be accused of racism for saying these things. All right. I hereby make a proposal to the NAACP: Let's hire a first-line accounting firm to make a study of the figures, and publish both its results and its methods. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and will say so. Do I have any takers?

Unless this stops, we face disaster. One day things will explode.

Nothing suggests that it will stop. I see no signs that the black underclass is shrinking, and many signs -- the huge number of children -- that it is growing. These people simply cannot be integrated into a techno-industrial European society. They bear no resemblance to middle-class blacks one sees in offices. They are parasitic, uneducable, criminally predatory -- and they hate whites.

As blacks grow in numbers, they take over city after city. While these governments are not of the underclass, and don't want riots, they will of political necessity support the underclass. And, I suspect, no blacks at all really like whites. The danger is that whites may weary of it. If they ever push back, the potential for irremediable, ghastly, self-sustaining conflict will be high. I'll guess the country couldn't recover.

It had better not happen, but it could. Any spark could light it. One day the underclass, rioting, may go into white neighborhoods to stomp and burn. They won't expect resistance, because they have never met it. I don't think Al and Jesse quite know how many deer guns, how many Weatherbys and .223s sit quietly in closets out here. If a mob comes toward a man's home, where his wife and children are, the results will be astonishing. The police will immediately polarize, black versus white. So will everybody else. Government will be irrelevant. And the whole country just might blow up.

If that happens, God help us.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“I can confirm that there is a deep hatred of whites by underclass blacks and even some low-to-middle class blacks”

I don’t get it, where does this hate come from?


81 posted on 08/30/2008 11:01:14 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: Altura Ct.

“Unfortunately too many “evil white” people agree and accept that whites are the antithesis of existence and a peaceful world.”

Not in private.


82 posted on 08/30/2008 11:02:48 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: Niuhuru
Jesse Jackson and Sharpton can’t seem to fathom that a race riot or war could end up getting them and a lot of blacks killed as ruthlessly as they promote riots and intimidation. They see themselves as the Kings of Anarchy, but they are more a pawn in all of this than they realize.

The black leadership has no interest in a race war or any actual violent threat to the established system.

These guys are part of the established system- it's made them rich and powerful. Do you really think they have any interest in tearing it down?

83 posted on 08/31/2008 5:36:28 PM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: Aliska
I don't want to say any more about it but am considering my options and have thought about a breakdown in society for years what could happen.

What a scary thought - makes you think of the build-up of the hatred for Jews in Germany.

84 posted on 08/31/2008 6:00:16 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Patriotic1
What a scary thought - makes you think of the build-up of the hatred for Jews in Germany.

Yes it is, and we aren't exactly like Germany which was pretty "undiversified" except for the Jews. Maybe that is naive on my part, had a stomach full of reading the horrors that happened there so just had to quit.

But we are just as human as Germans were and can be manipulated, agitated, brainwashed just like anybody else as a society. We are sooooooo divided, there ain't going to be any uniting even if I will do my little part to try to be pleasant and benign but wary and watchful, some places I no longer can go at night but still pretty much come and go when I please, when I please, sometimes in the middle of the night lol. No politician is going to be able to fix it. People love to hate now. It's become a national sport. Who spouted the most hatred today? (Just left a liberal forum where I lurk where they are, but for a few voices in the wildnerness tearing Palin to shreds).

I'm regularly reading a survival group once I realized how vulnerable I and my family could be, even if we have something like a prolonged power outage, especially in winter. I was never a Boy Scout, but believe in their motto, "Be Prepared". I don't think I'm a fanatic, and am too old and unskilled to do a whole lot of preparedness, but by golly I'm going to start little by little, buy a generator, learn how to use it, buy a crank radio, possibly arm myself with the hope I never have to actually use a weapon, just basic things. Money, I don't know how to prepare for and if it will even be any good. Some have at least temporary escape plans to cabins way the heck out of town, etc., well thought out, practical.

The people who post don't *all* sound like a bunch of nutcases, just some rugged individuals who want to be prepared in case as they say WTSHTF. In my eyes, some are even taking a risk by posting there. I'm learning a lot by lurking and reading about skills I never developed or even imagined; some above my ability to grasp and act on. They know how to take generators out of cars and junked campers and make them safe and cheap to generate enough power to run a lot of things in their homes, I'm not talking computers and TV's, things we need to survive. There's nutty stuff, but a lot of smart ideas being shared there. There are some things you simply cannot prepare for.

It's a darn good mental exercise. We have lost many of the skills of our forefathers, a lot of us don't have networks of people we can depend on, and have become pampered even though some of us are near poverty-stricken, others never giving a thought to what they would do if (speaking for myself & family), not most FReepers.

I AM TOO DEPENDENT ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE and have allowed myself to become so even though I have a few skills the young 'uns would laugh at and wouldn't have a clue.

I am no prophet, and what's on this thread may not ever happen without martial law being imposed (that could be bad, too). But I figured it all out by myself years ago, nobody planted the thought in my mind. If we have another depression like in 1929, people aren't going to line up and play nice, polite and patient like most were then, even hobos (lots of basically decent men down on their luck and no jobs) wives could hand food out their back doors to them without being very afraid.

My son who has never been particularly civic minded is with his pretty gf and young son and was in South Chicago today, Obama country, helping pack and load supplies for Gustav victims if needed, very hot, hard work. He told my daughter on the phone tonight they were the only whites, and the blacks were really looking them over. I was asking a zillion questions. The blacks were helping, too. My first thought was, I hoped they were out of there by nightfall. Forty years ago I wouldn't have had thoughts like that . . . .

85 posted on 08/31/2008 8:02:42 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: B-Chan

“And we cannot allow a race war to happen here. If it came down to whites versus blacks, God forbid, we all know who would win in the end. Numbers don’t lie, and ethnic cleansing is an ugly, savage thing...

Bottom line: We should do what we can to keep this nightmare from ever being realized. An honest, upfront discussion of reality would be a start. Too bad we won’t get one.”

The fact that we will never get what you suggest in the last paragraph, guarantees that we WILL get what you warn of in the first.

And there will be “uniforms”. You will have been wearing them at the moment of your birth.

- John


86 posted on 08/31/2008 8:25:52 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: wmfights

“The big problem is the underclass that has embraced lifestyles that make them unemployable. They end up living in ghettos.”

If this is indeed the case, the obvious and most workable “solution” is to continue to segregate and confine the underclass into such ghettos, and, by doing so, confine their pathologies as well, to whatever extent is possible.

So long as they continue to embrace such lifestyles they will remain “unemployable” and perpetuate those pathologies.

There is no evidence that this will change any time soon, or ever. The fact is, that in such ghettos, “traditional families” (along with whatever chances such families might provide for children to escape the underclass) are rarities or essentially non-existant. Good luck on changing that.

- John


87 posted on 08/31/2008 8:52:03 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Citizen Blade

These days you never know. I know at this point they are part of the establishment (ironies never cease), but if a race riot would garner them more influence or power, they’d encourage it.


88 posted on 09/02/2008 6:25:37 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: Patriotic1

And like the Jews we’ve done nothing to deserve this hatred.


89 posted on 09/02/2008 6:28:18 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: RobRoy
"Crime by the underclass is racial, predatory, and very much targeted against whites."

the last sentiment is totally, flat-out wrong.

90 posted on 09/02/2008 6:29:52 AM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: thefactor
"Crime by the underclass is racial, predatory, and very much targeted against whites."

the last sentiment is totally, flat-out wrong.

It is true that blacks commit, per capita, many more crimes against whites than vice vers.

But that statistic, taken in a vacuum, doesn't really tell us much. When it comes to the chances of being a crime victim, blacks are something like 6 times more likely to be a victim than whites. Black victims are actually almost a majority of all murders in this country, even though blacks are only about 12% of the population.

Some people seem to be obsessed with the fact that blacks commit crimes against whites, but they miss the fact that the person most likely to be the victim of a crime in this country is a young black male.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

91 posted on 09/02/2008 8:10:56 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: thefactor

>>the last sentiment is totally, flat-out wrong.<<

All you’ve done there is state an opinion with no suppost whatsoever. That makes it fairly useless, no offense.

It’s also one that Fred seems to disagree with. He has ridden with the police in these areas and seen the people and their actions and attitudes up close and personal. I haven’t so I defer to him. I have read many articles on this concept and have come to the conclusion that there is almost certainly more truth in his statement than many are comfortable with.


92 posted on 09/02/2008 8:28:04 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: RobRoy
well i have my 5 years as a police officer in new york city as well as a masters degree in criminal justice.

criminals look like their victims. it's just that easy. if you are talking about rioting, then yes, that usually has racial undertones and obviously blacks would go after whites.

but if you are looking at everyday criminal activity it is clear that blacks victimize blacks because that is what they see. on the whole whites commit more crime but proportional to population, black commit drastically more crime. and their victims are usually black.

and we're only talking about reported crime! blacks are far less likely to report crime than whites. most studies show that only around 50% of crimes are reported to police.

93 posted on 09/02/2008 9:04:56 AM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: thefactor

I’m thinking of stuff like this:
http://fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm

And this:
http://fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm


94 posted on 09/02/2008 9:39:10 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: RobRoy

RE:BTTT


95 posted on 09/16/2008 5:57:21 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (WHO NEEDS OPRAH!!!!!)
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To: thefactor

My post 94 pointed to the wrong place. I just discovered it when this thread got bumped.

I meant to link to here:
http://fredoneverything.net/Kreager.shtml

And here:
http://fredoneverything.net/Diversity.shtml


96 posted on 09/16/2008 6:55:22 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: sweetiepiezer

Thanks for the ping. I discovered I had used bad links in the previous post.


97 posted on 09/16/2008 6:55:50 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: RobRoy; LucyT

Might find this interesting.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2083456/posts


98 posted on 09/16/2008 7:24:51 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (WHO NEEDS OPRAH!!!!!)
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To: Travis McGee

Travis, I just read the excerpt. Once again you’ve got me hooked. The other two books are great. When will the new one be available?


99 posted on 09/16/2008 8:12:59 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: sweetiepiezer

Thanks for the ping. I discovered I had used bad links in the previous post.


100 posted on 09/16/2008 5:43:43 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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