Posted on 08/27/2008 7:39:02 AM PDT by RogerFGay
After Barack Obama's Fathers' Day speech, analysts have been confident in criticizing his tired, old, business-as-usual, anti-father, anti-family stance. For some who didn't get the real message through the flowery rhetoric, his choice of running mate “Old White Man” Joe Biden tipped the scale. If you are in favor of sanity, against bone-crushing arbitrary government intrusion and out-of-control pork-barreling, against the destruction of marriage and family, these aren't your guys.
What about the alternative, John McCain? ....
(Excerpt) Read more at mensnewsdaily.com ...
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*Senator* John McCain is apparently out of touch with reality here. Whether or not father’s rights issues are best addressed in the states is no longer pertinent after years of federal government intrusion into these institutions. I notice he said nothing about that or the need (much less his intentions) to return these issues to the states and get the federal government completely out of the picture. This is a real problem with McCain IMO. He’s talking out of both sides of his mouth and not saying anything in the process.
Right. Glenn Sacks already made the judgement call in an MND article - pointing out the obvious - that McCain would like to avoid the issue. It’s a very risky thing to do these days. It may be a bit of a leap - but maybe he’s smart enough not to take the risk; or maybe he really needs me to tell him how to handle it. :) Anyway - we know it’s an issue.
Yes, we know its an issue and we’ve known it for a long time now. The problem (and the point of the matter) is that politicians like McCain apparently don’t know that it is an issue at all much less just how many voters find it to be a BIG issue. It is high time politicians were aware of this but it is *our* fault if they don’t know because we aren’t getting our point out to them. Unfortunately getting men to get active politically in this arena is harder to do than herding cats is.
Thanks for making me aware of another issue to watch out for.
Thank you sir.
KEEP UP THE FIGHT.
I’ve said this in my writing many times - the money gets in the way of their vision. I am confident that they do know they’ve created problems, big problems. I don’t blame fathers’ rights advocates for not going to sufficient effort. But they’ve created a pork-barrel with 10s of billions going into it annually. That’s there side of the BIG issue. Of course they don’t want to talk about it.
You’re welcome. It’s my job to educate.
You’re welcome.
Excuses are all fine and good for the men victimized by these government programs but saying the government’s power with money is the sole reason for men not speaking up is not valid. I can agree that men don’t get actively involved because they are too busy working to support a family they’ve been tossed out of, that they are genetically wired to refrain from attacking women publicly, that they are genetically programmed to protect women and children, that they are socially raised to be chivalrous to women (even those who don’t deserve any respect) and that they fear what else the government might do to them should they speak up.
However, unless the wheel squeaks it won’t get the grease (political attention). That’s just a sad fact of politics.
Wonder where Romney falls on this issue ?????
Has he ever been asked ????
Early on in my husband’s divorce from his first wife I was involved in father’s rights groups on the local level. No matter how hard I or anyone else pushed it always ultimately turned out to be a boondoggle due mainly to lack of interest and support from the general membership.
Only a few key members got truly involved in the footwork and nobody gets far in politics with only a handful of people showing up at rallies, political townhall meetings, or even signing petions. The men in these groups liked to get together for meetings to drink beer (always in a bar—bad idea in itself but we’d have had fewer show up if we went alcohol free) and commiserate with one another about their plights. There’s nothing wrong with that and in fact, it has its place in the agenda.
The problem was that for most men it never went any further than that. This is why I said getting men actively involved in these issues is harder than herding cats.
From what I've seen of father's rights groups that isn't going to happen any time soon. So while I see activism as necessary to getting political attention regarding men's issues, I also see that it probably won't happen in my lifetime.
It's time for me to go herd up my 4 cats now. : )
A reader (who’s also an expert who has written many articles on the subject) caught a factual error in the original article, and I’ve corrected it. I was thinking of a different organization when I wrote about the National Fatherhood Initiative. You can click through to the original article to read the new text in the two paragraphs starting .. “McCain is a member of the U.S. Senate Task Force ...”
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