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1 posted on 08/25/2008 1:47:05 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 08/25/2008 1:47:45 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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On first reading, I thought that said he should refrain from Communism. *giggle*


3 posted on 08/25/2008 1:48:17 PM PDT by BykrBayb (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 3, who won't be voting for McCain. ~ Þ)
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Um, not to jump on the RC church, but why weren’t the pro-death people kicked out of the church long ago? Does the Pope mean what he says or not? (Note: the protestant churches don’t do such a hot job on church discipline either, but that doesn’t excuse anybody.)

As for a policitian saying they are personally opposed to abortion but allow for a pro-choice position, that is just plain creepy. The only reason to be pro-life is that you believe abortion is murder, so what these people are really saying is, “I personally oppose murder, but it’s OK if other people approve of or want to commit murder.”


4 posted on 08/25/2008 1:52:14 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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I had to laugh when the MSM claimed on Saturday that Biden’s Catholicism was a big plus for the Obama ticket. So, dumb, they couldn’t even acknowledge that Biden’s pro-abortion stance would become a big negative for Catholics.


7 posted on 08/25/2008 2:00:03 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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Has anyone rought up the fact that abortion is racist? The black population is 11%; yet 1/3 of all abortions are by black women. A whole generation of blacks - Jackie Robinsons, Thomas Sowells, Clarence Thomases, all destroyed. Blacks killing blacks.


8 posted on 08/25/2008 2:02:39 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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The pro-aborts have a litmus test... they won’t consider approving a SC justice unless they are pro death (only for the unborn, not criminals). Yet they accuse us of having a litmus test. I hope every bishop in every diocese comes out strongly against these “Catholics”


9 posted on 08/25/2008 2:03:41 PM PDT by berkley
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...but alas he was able to receive the Eucharist yesterday as he has every Sunday.

Scandal.


10 posted on 08/25/2008 2:05:32 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (A vote for third party is a vote for nObama)
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Someone better tell the monsignor at Bidens parish. He permitted him to take communion, although he admitted that he has spoken to him about the Churches teaching on abortion.
13 posted on 08/25/2008 2:10:23 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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Now I’m waiting for the Archbishops of Chicago and DC to join in this statement.>s


17 posted on 08/25/2008 2:17:03 PM PDT by steve8714 (Curtis Strange ruined a man better than himself.)
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Let's see if abortion joe tries to receive Holy Communion.
18 posted on 08/25/2008 2:18:45 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver has said that Biden should refrain from Communion.

I've always been jealous of Denver after spending an evening with Bishop Chaput at a Kateri conference. A truly great man.

20 posted on 08/25/2008 2:30:46 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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This is not just a test of Catholics voting (NOT) for the Obama-Biden ticket, but even moreso...

This is a test of the American Council of Bishops and how effective (NOT) they are going to be in the face of CLEAR Catholic teaching and this Pope’s strong psition on it.

In the end, I expect the Pope and the Bishop’s to fold their tent and allow Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, etc. to receive communion.

Meanwhile, Catholic Democrats continue to cherry pick and equate abortion (an intrinsic evil) with war and detah penalty (which the Catholic Church has made clear is not an INTRINSIC evil).

These politicians should go join the Anglicans (or Episcopalians) where they are soft on abortion, homosexuality, celibacy, etc...


21 posted on 08/25/2008 2:47:40 PM PDT by detch
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This is not just a test of Catholics voting (NOT) for the Obama-Biden ticket, but more so...

This is a test of the American Council of Bishops and how effective (NOT) they are going to be in the face of CLEAR Catholic teaching and this Pope's strong position on respect for life for “the least of our brethren” as Obama said to Rick Warren.

In the end, I expect the Pope and the Bishop's to fold their tent and allow Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, etc. to receive communion.

Meanwhile, Catholic Democrats continue to cherry pick and equate abortion (an intrinsic evil) with war and death penalty (which the Catholic Church has made clear is not an INTRINSIC evil).

These politicians should go join the Anglicans (or Episcopalians) where they are soft on abortion, homosexuality, celibacy, etc...

23 posted on 08/25/2008 2:51:48 PM PDT by detch
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To: NYer
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29 posted on 08/25/2008 4:54:04 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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