Posted on 08/25/2008 12:54:34 PM PDT by lizol
Katyn “deserved revenge”?
Created: 25.08.2008 15:09
“Stalin was an efficient leader, not a murderer. The killing of Polish officers in Katyn was a well-deserved revenge,“ will be the new official historical theory taught in Russian schools.
Before the opening of the new school year, the Russian Academy of Qualification Improvement and Professional Retraining of Education Employees has released guidelines for teachers regarding the history syllabus in schools.
From now on, Russian pupils will be informed that some 22,000 Polish officers were indeed killed by the NKVD in Katyn in 1940, but the act was fully justified and “politically suitable”, reports a Moscow-based liberal, but pro-government daily newspaper Vremya Novostei.
Russian teachers will also explain to their school children that the Katyn massacre was carried out “in response to the killing of thousands of Red Army soldiers in Polish captivity after the war of 1920 [between Poland and the Soviet Union], initiated by Poland, not the USSR".
Purges and acts of ethnic cleansing, killing millions, carried out on Stalin’s orders were simply "efficient endeavours” of the leader getting the country ready for the forthcoming war.
The Katyn massacre has been a running sore between Warsaw and Moscow. On March 5, 1940, Joseph Stalin signed a decree to murder Polish Army officers taken captive after the Red Army invasion of Poland in 1939. The officers, made up of Poland's intellectual elite, were systematically shot from April till May 1940 in Katyn, Charkov and Tarnow.
The information about mass graves in Katyn was made public by the Germans on April 13, 1943. Two days later, the Soviets blamed the massacre on the Nazis.
After an investigation of over a decade in length, Moscow refused to name the massacre as a war crime nor, as the Polish side alleges, was it genocide. No prosecutions have ever been made against the NKVD officers involved in the slaughter.
How is it a tragedy?
Yep, lest we forget Palmiry, the Nazis version of "Katyn."
“The post coldwar warming is officially over. Russian imperialism is back.”
The Soviet Union had 293 million people. Russia now has 142 million. It is a very different country and Russian Imperialism is substantially different than Soviet Imperialism. They aren’t a particularly large country now.
That's easy. The Polish Government-in-Exile was London-based during WW2. Stalin wanted to install his own stooges after the Red Army cleared Poland of Nazi troops. How do you suppose the Red Army would be received if Stalin had admitted he ordered the killing of 22,000 Polish officers?
The chilling thing about this development is what it means in the wake of recent events in Georgia. Putin has a major screw loose.
I'm not sure I think that would work as a practical matter. Look at Katrina/New Orleans. Do you think the socialists in San Francisco would want to 'cooperate' with Washington, or sit-tight & confound our strategy? Seems to me that this type of politician would rather take a Russian bayonet than be seen to take direction from the US Federal Government.
It wouldn't work perfectly.
Look at Katrina/New Orleans.
I trust that the US Army operating under the full authority of martial law would be more efficient at evacuating New Orleans than Nagin flunkies.
Do you think the socialists in San Francisco would want to 'cooperate' with Washington, or sit-tight & confound our strategy?
While the SF city council and a few thousands select San Franciscans would act as reverse human shields on Russia, the incentive would be simple: if you evacuate in a timely fashion as required by law, you will be eligible for federal funds to get styarted after the loss of your home.
Or, just maybe, it's because they don't see much profit in releasing a 1991 movie starring Tom Hulce that only made $93,000 in its domestic release. If you want it, though, there are lots of people selling used copies of the VHS on Amazon.
Not everything is about politics.
“I’m not sure I think that would work as a practical matter. Look at Katrina/New Orleans. Do you think the socialists in San Francisco would want to ‘cooperate’ with Washington, or sit-tight & confound our strategy? Seems to me that this type of politician would rather take a Russian bayonet than be seen to take direction from the US Federal Government”
If we had a little time, it wouldn’t matter. Do you REALLY think the people of SF would stay put under this kind of threat? Do you think the government of SF as it stands now would try to stop their people from leaving, by force? Good luck with that one, there.
“While the SF city council and a few thousands select San Franciscans would act as reverse human shields on Russia, the incentive would be simple: if you evacuate in a timely fashion as required by law, you will be eligible for federal funds to get styarted after the loss of your home.”
What a few traitorous fools did at that point, would probably not even slow me down, if I were in charge.
Somehow, I don’t think the Russians would even target SF.. why target your natural allies?
A lot of movies that did worse have been released on DVD, I know I’ve been anxious to get The Inner Circle on DVD.
Interesting tidbit, Bob Hoskins is probably the only actor that portrayed both Khrushchev(Enemy at the Gates) and Beria(The Inner Circle) in movies.
Is it more or less horrific than murdering 40 million defenseless babies in the womb?
No, they just skulk around and hiss at the mention of Georgia .
So what was it revenge for? I don’t get it.
Of course “Gorbachev”, not “Gorachev”.
I am of German ancestry, and some of my relatives went to Russia when my great grandfather came to the US (to run from the Prussians’ plans of religious unity). They didn't fair to well in Russia.
So does that mean the Germans from Russia get to kill a few thousand Russians as a result? Or how about the Cossacks? They have a few bones to pick with Moscow. What about all the other former satellites?
Russia invaded Georgia because they beat up on some people who liked Russia. What if the Ukraine liquidated their Russian population and called it “Deserved Revenge”?
This is beyond idiotic, it is suicidal.
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