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N Korea's Kim died in 2003 and was replaced by lookalike, says Waseda professor (????)
Japan Today ^ | 08/23/08

Posted on 08/23/2008 9:17:10 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

N Korea's Kim died in 2003 and was replaced by lookalike, says Waseda professor

Is Kim Jong Il dead? Yes, North Korea’s “Dear Leader” is no more, having passed away in the fall of 2003, writes Waseda University professor Toshimitsu Shigemura in Shukan Gendai (Aug 23-30).

A one-time Mainichi Shimbun journalist posted in Seoul, Shigemura is introduced by the magazine as a leading authority on the Korean Peninsula. His latest book, released this month, is titled “The True Character of Kim Jong Il.”

If true, the implications are potentially vast. Among them: former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi’s summit partner during one or both of his landmark visits to Pyongyang in 2002 and 2004 was not Kim himself but a dummy—the stand-in Shigemura claims has been fooling the world for at least five years.

A dictator having one or multiple doubles is a familiar notion since Iraq’s Saddam Hussein was shown to have deployed them. But Saddam was alive at the time. Kim, in Shigemura’s scenario, was not manipulating a look-alike; he was replaced by one.

Of course it’s fantastic—but in North Korea, says Shigemura, fantasy and reality are not mutually exclusive. “Japanese common sense cannot take the measure of North Korea’s uniqueness,” he writes. “For example: Kim came to Tokyo six times in the 1980s.”

Then as now, North Korea and Japan had no diplomatic ties. Kim, then heir to the throne under his father, “Great Leader” Kim Il Sung, apparently traveled incognito by ship. His purpose: to take in the magic shows staged by magician Hikita Tenko at the upscale Cordon Bleu show pub in Akasaka.

Shigemura cites as sources (without naming them) several people close to Kim’s family. He hears from them that Kim’s diabetes took a turn for the worse early in 2000. From then until his supposed death three and a half years later he was confined to a wheelchair.

Was the flurry of diplomatic activity in which the world saw Kim engaged during those years mere sleight of hand? The “hermit kingdom” seemed all of a sudden to grow remarkably outgoing. In June 2000 Kim hosted the historic summit with South Korean President Kim Dae Jung. The following month, he received Russian President Vladimir Putin. In October his guest was U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. In January 2001 he visited China; in August, Russia. In September 2002 there occurred the first summit with Koizumi, culminating in Kim’s admission, after decades of denial from Pyongyang, that North Korean agents had kidnapped Japanese nationals. August 2003 saw the launch of the Six Party talks aimed at North Korea’s nuclear disarmament.

“Then suddenly,” writes Shigemura in Shukan Gendai, “the pace slows.”

The second Kim-Koizumi summit, in 2004, lasted all of 90 minutes. Scheduled meetings with other foreign dignitaries were abruptly canceled. Kim’s retreat from the public eye was almost total. State television in October 2003 showed him touring a collective farm, but mention of the date of the visit was conspicuously absent.

Kim’s family, meanwhile, was in a state of upheaval. His wife died—of breast cancer, said official reports; assassinated, according to persistent rumors. His favorite sister, a high-ranking Communist Party official, suddenly moved to Paris. Her husband lost his post. Clearly something was afoot.

In the spring of 2006, says Shigemura, American spy satellites succeeded in photographing Kim. An analysis of the photographs led to an astonishing conclusion: Kim had grown 2.5 cm!

“Recently,” Shigemura proceeds, “someone who was in contact with a Kim family member told me he heard the family member say, ‘There’s been a promise not to decide on Kim’s successor so long as the current shogun is alive.’”

“‘Shogun’ was Kim’s nickname,” Shigemura explains “If Kim were alive, the family member would simply have said, ‘the shogun’—not ‘the current shogun.’ The stress on ‘current’ seems to suggest that the person in question is someone other than Kim Jong Il.”

Shukan Gendai asks a government official who helped plan Koizumi’s Pyongyang visits what he thinks of all this. His reply:

“Rumors of a dummy Kim began circulating after the summit. Some of us said we should have Kim’s voice prints analyzed. But if we did that and proved the prime minister had been conferring with a double, it could have destroyed the Koizumi administration. So we didn’t proceed.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: double; kimjongil; nkorea; northkorea; succession
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A little hard to believe. As always, various allegation swirls around Chia Head. If he is still alive, he must enjoy all this.:-)
1 posted on 08/23/2008 9:17:11 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/23/2008 9:17:50 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

that sure explains a lot!


3 posted on 08/23/2008 9:18:36 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear (`)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This would make an excellent movie...if true.

But the US spy satellite capability mentioned....I kinda doubt...measuring a guy’s height?


4 posted on 08/23/2008 9:20:23 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The scariest thought is the possibility of more than one person that ugly!


5 posted on 08/23/2008 9:20:55 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: TigerLikesRooster

North Korea is such a closed off nation that if anyone could pull something like this off, it’s them. How many people has Kim Jong-Il ever met with who would notice, anyways?


6 posted on 08/23/2008 9:21:09 PM PDT by kc8ukw
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Same thing happened with Larry King.


7 posted on 08/23/2008 9:21:19 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What a nutty country!


8 posted on 08/23/2008 9:22:19 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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North Korean lookalike technology has room for improvement

9 posted on 08/23/2008 9:23:07 PM PDT by Mentos
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To: SevenofNine

huh?????


10 posted on 08/23/2008 9:25:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: pepsionice

If they could read the numbers on a license plate 30 years ago, why not? You would need a shadow, the exact GPS coordinates, and the exact time of day, and you could determine it using basic geometry. I’m not saying it happened, but I wouldn’t dismiss it out of hand either.


11 posted on 08/23/2008 9:26:02 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Roscoe Karns

LOL


12 posted on 08/23/2008 9:26:35 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That explains why he looked so ronery in Team America World Police.


13 posted on 08/23/2008 9:27:11 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (DRILL HERE. DRILL NOW. PAY LESS!)
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In the spring of 2006, says Shigemura, American spy satellites succeeded in photographing Kim. An analysis of the photographs led to an astonishing conclusion: Kim had grown 2.5 cm!

So, the guy is sitting or standing, and a satellite is able to discern he is 2.5 cm taller than expected, and they know this is not from shoes?

14 posted on 08/23/2008 9:28:53 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Mentos

Hmmmm.... he looks a little wooden in that pic.


15 posted on 08/23/2008 9:29:13 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Does it really matter what psychotic dung pile is in charge of the world’s most repressive starvation camp?

On a side note, remember the picture of Albright and Chia Head grinning away as she presents him with a Micheal Jordan signed basketball? If that doesn’t convince you that the entire State Department needs to be fired and deported, I don’t know what will.


16 posted on 08/23/2008 9:29:48 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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America F*** ya, America F*** ya.

Team America, great movie, I even went on Itunes and have the Song.

I have a sad life :)

17 posted on 08/23/2008 9:30:17 PM PDT by highpockets
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hmmmm

Is Kim Jong so ill he needs surgery?

Kim Jong Il, North Korea’s reclusive leader, has been so unwell that he could not walk more than 30 yards without a rest, western governments have been told.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1554143/Is-Kim-Jong-so-ill-he-needs-surgery.html


18 posted on 08/23/2008 9:31:47 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: pepsionice

***But the US spy satellite capability mentioned....I kinda doubt...measuring a guy’s height?***

You could probably estimate a person’s height by comparing them to an object of known height.


19 posted on 08/23/2008 9:32:10 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Roscoe Karns

Your profile page is great; I ‘bout fell out of the chair laughing.


20 posted on 08/23/2008 9:33:13 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver....is anyone's guess....August 25 - 28, 2008)
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