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NAZARIO TRIAL, DAY TWO: The Stuff of Legend
Defend Our Marines ^ | August 23, 2008 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 08/23/2008 12:55:32 PM PDT by RedRover

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NAZARIO TRIAL, DAY ONE: "This kind of case is supposed to be in a military court"

FALLUJAH MURDER CASE: THE TRIAL OF JOSE NAZARIO [LIVE THREAD]

1 posted on 08/23/2008 12:55:32 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...

2 posted on 08/23/2008 1:02:19 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover
Well, prosecute in Civil Court, and you get the civil style of defense. KUDOs to these Marines.

They continue to serve their nation, even when placed in jeopardy.

The liberal leftie prosecution wants to brand these men as criminals, when all they did was the duty they saw fit in battle.And they did it in the face of Islamofascists on the field of battle who would have done them a lot worse.

" You killed the wrong person:" argument doesn't work on a battle field. The so called noncombatant one minute can pick up a rifle or grenade the next.

The context of this POLITICAL trial is esentially socialist. Since when is America allowed to have political trials of soldiers? Sounds like something out of Kaffka, or something from the bowels of a commie society.

NOT GUILTY!

3 posted on 08/23/2008 1:14:11 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: Candor7

If Bush had any stones he’d free these Marines right now, but unfortunately he has none.


4 posted on 08/23/2008 1:41:14 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta
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To: Candor7; Jarhead2844; USMCWriter; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ..
Those who continue to prosecute can go to hell.
5 posted on 08/23/2008 2:06:57 PM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: freema

Yeah, Ma. I just discovered this one today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-u6kLmZrVs

I talk with Sean’s Mom almost every day. She lost Sean on his third tour on July 30, 2007. No one was with her on the 1st anniversary...

Semper Fidelis.


6 posted on 08/23/2008 2:39:55 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: RedRover
Awesome report by Nat Helms. "The Stuff of Legend" is an appropriate title for what these Marines did not only in Fallujah, but in the courtroom.

Larson demurred, arguing that upholding the honor of the Marine Corps was a Marines’ most important responsibility.

"This court is once again calling on his honor and integrity," Larson said.


I think Weemer has found a way to uphold not only his own honor, but that of the Marine Corps, while dealing with the demons that a battle like Fallujah would have on any Marine.
7 posted on 08/23/2008 3:09:12 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: USMCPOP

Damn. That takes my breath away.

Forgetting to breathe, you know.

I let it out.

And forget to take it back in.


8 posted on 08/23/2008 3:12:03 PM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: Girlene
I think Weemer has found a way to uphold not only his own honor, but that of the Marine Corps, while dealing with the demons that a battle like Fallujah would have on any Marine.

And I think you're right.

9 posted on 08/23/2008 3:17:06 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover
Judge Larson appears to be okay from Nat's reporting. Behnke sounds like a complete a$$ and something these Marines would scrape off their boots before coming inside.

Prayers for these guys that justice will set them free.

10 posted on 08/23/2008 3:38:38 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: RedRover

And I think that any military court that has active duty on the jury panel will have a hard time finding either Weemer or Nelson guilty. Assuing the military jury panel is aware of what they did in federal court, I don’t think too many Marines would want to second guess their faithfullness and determination in Nazrio’s case to hang them out to dry. Either way, these two men have laid a lot on the line. Impressive.


11 posted on 08/23/2008 4:12:55 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: RedRover
Assistant US Attorney Jerry Behnke doesn’t care about what a great kid and stand-out Marine Nazario used to be. He is only interested in getting a victory. He claims it will be good for the country.

Har! I'd like to see a photo of this punk Behnke. I'll guess he's a mouse-faced little weasel who ran like a scared bunny rabbit from the playground bullies.

12 posted on 08/23/2008 4:40:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Eagles6
Judge Larson appears to be okay from Nat's reporting.

Or maybe he's just another California judge looking for a TV show. Larson could dismiss the charges and throw this pathetic "case" out of his courtroom anytime he wants. But here we go - - four years later and no bodies, no identifications, no report of a crime, no evidence, no nothing, except the foggy heresay of wartime pseudo-memories. Is somebody friggin' kidding me?

You may think Larson "appears to be okay", but man, I don't trust him.

13 posted on 08/23/2008 4:51:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Unfortunately, there’s a very strict “no-photo” policy even on the sidewalks outside the courtroom. Nat has his camera with him but hasn’t been able to make use of it.

So that picture will have to wait.


14 posted on 08/23/2008 5:03:11 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Girlene

Agreed, Girl.


15 posted on 08/23/2008 5:11:51 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: All; joanie-f
We don't have a Justice System anymore, now it's a Legal System where guilt or innocence is not the prime concern. If Nancy Grace, Chris Mattews or Dan Abrams chooses to review your case and says you are guilty then you are guilty by God and there is no other choice. Their accusation should be sufficient to close the case or so many Americans believe. No wonder we have articles such as As of October, FBI To Allow Warrantless Investigations appearing on FR.

If you won't fight for your rights and the rights of others, then for Pete's sake don't complain when you lose them.

16 posted on 08/23/2008 5:29:35 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: B4Ranch
If you won't fight for your rights and the rights of others, then for Pete's sake don't complain when you lose them.

Bears repeating.

Love your tagline, by the way.

17 posted on 08/23/2008 5:33:21 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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Just sayin’ from Nat’s reporting. You’re right, if he was really okay he would throw the case out and put the DA in jail.


18 posted on 08/23/2008 5:48:28 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: B4Ranch
B4, there are so many domestic forces (political/academic/media) working against our military that it’s hard to keep track of the latest assault.

I happened to be discussing this case with a fellow township official at my office late yesterday. He knew nothing about it until I brought it up. (I can’t blame him for that. The mainstream media coverage it is receiving is all but non-existent.) When I explained to him the particulars, he was livid, and, after we discussed Nazario’s tragedy-in-the-making, he blurted out, ‘I really don’t know why anyone would want to enlist anymore.’ He (and I, to a degree, as well) believes that our military is fighting every bit as hard a battle against the enemies of America within our borders as those outside of them. And he said that he doesn’t really comprehend what they are fighting to preserve.

It was different during World War II (and even, to a degree, in Vietnam, before the societal rot had assumed a vice-like grip). There were values and freedoms that needed defending. And the majority of Americans embraced those values and held dear those freedoms.

That is no longer the case.

I posted a photo on my weblog, months back, of a Marine in Iraq who had pasted on his locker a crudely-written sign: ‘The Marines are facing the enemy in Iraq. America is at the mall.’

While I hold our military in the highest respect, like my friend, I believe they are defending virtues and values that no longer exist – at least not in the minds and hearts of most Americans. And certainly not in the minds and hearts of our leaders.

God bless Jose Nazario, and the thousands like him who are laying their lives on the line for a nation, the majority of whose citizens value the accumulation of creature comforts, and the ability to be ‘entertained’, far more than the timeless treasures of liberty and sovereignty that these men are willing to die to preserve.

Before leaving the subject of citizen ignorance and apathy, let me tell you something I did today that added to my discouragement in that regard ...

My husband and I are very interested in seeing the movie I.O.U.S.A. – a critically-acclaimed documentary that focuses on examining our ever-growing national debt, and the impact it will eventually have on our republic. It was just released so we have been attempting, in various ways, to find out where it is playing. Of course, since it is a hard-hitting story regarding something about which every American should be deeply concerned, its release appears to be very limited. As a matter of fact, we have visited numerous movie websites, including the producer’s own, and have been unable to discover the theater closest to us that is showing it (We are willing to travel a significant distance).

In the process, I have come across listings for probably twenty-five different movies that are showing within a fifty-mile radius of our house, hardly any of which I have heard about, and absolutely none of which I would want to see – even if they were playing in my front yard, admission were free, and I were carried from my house into my theater seat (and offered free buttered popcorn).

Bread and circuses, anyone?

~ joanie

19 posted on 08/23/2008 5:51:17 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: RedRover; freema

I cannot help but think just how many more Marines and soldiers are going to find themselves in similar shoes as these charades are allowed to continue. It is open season on those that have served their country during war time conditions.


20 posted on 08/23/2008 5:57:30 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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