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NAZARIO TRIAL, DAY TWO: The Stuff of Legend
Defend Our Marines ^ | August 23, 2008 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 08/23/2008 12:55:32 PM PDT by RedRover

Riverside, California--The heated atmosphere at the US District Court in Riverside grew even more contentious Friday morning when two Marine sergeants accused of murder by military authorities refused to testify in the manslaughter case of their former squad leader Jose Luis Nazario.

The air was already charged with anticipation when sergeants Ryan Weemer and Jermaine Nelson, both 26, marched in ramrod straight to tell US District Judge Stephen Larson that they were refusing to obey his order to testify against their former squad leader.

All three men are charged with participating in the execution of four enemy combatants their squad captured at Fallujah, Iraq on November 9, 2004.

Two years ago, Weemer spilled the beans on the alleged murders when he tried to get a job uniformed job in the Secret Service guarding the White House

At the time, Weemer was managing a coffee shop in Chesterfield, Missouri and I was writing a book about heroes. Weemer was one of them.

He was a newlywed, going to college, when I met him. He told me he was trying to sort out the horrible things he witnessed and participated in before and during the infamous Hell House fight.

It was there that two Marines earned Navy Crosses and all the men in 3rd Platoon, Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines were installed in the Pantheon of Heroes reserved for only the most gallant Marines.

Weemer told me he was shot three times at Hell House while engaged in a face-to-face duel with two Chechen foreign fighters who ultimately came out on the losing end of the encounter.

In time I discovered that the Hell House battle, and the days of constant combat that preceded it, left him psychologically scared and unable to process the horrible things he had experienced during the worst fight the Marine Corps has been in since the Vietnam War.

There were other stories as well, dark secrets he was holding deep inside, stories that showed in his haunted eyes. Even so, I never imagined the next time I saw him would be two years later in a California courtroom.

Nelson, an assaultman attached to 3rd Platoon, was also there, trying to break in to save Nazario, Weemer and ten other Marines trapped inside the slaughter house. Before the bloody skirmish ended one of those Marines was dead, and ten more were wounded.

In the end, all the enemy combatants died and the house they were fanatically defending was ground into dust by a bulldozer called in to finish the job. It was the stuff of legends.

So is this trial.

When Nelson and Weemer marched into the court room one at a time to face the judge, Nazario was sitting quietly on their left. As usual, nothing was on his face to give away what he might be thinking. The two decorated Marine sergeants exchanged furtive, almost embarrassed looks with Nazario that proclaimed in an instant how miserable they all must feel.

Nazario, ever the stoic Marine, says he tries not to think about it.

Inside, Nazario’s guts are churning, his mother Sandra Montianez claims. The fiery 46-year old Manhattan native with a heavy New York accent has a formidable temper that she can barely suppress when the prosecution characterizes her son as an unfeeling murderer and callous killer who slaughtered innocent Iraqis.

Sitting behind her Friday allowed me to unobtrusively watch her care-worn face in profile, changing from anger to disbelief and back to anger while the judge and lawyers argued back and forth.

“I gave them to him when he was seventeen,” she said. “He was so proud and now look what they are doing to my son.”

Sandra fondly remembers him as the tough little kid who by sheer willpower pulled himself out of Spanish Harlem to graduate from high school and join the Marines instead of the drug gangs like many of his youthful peers.

“I keep life books about him growing up,” she said. “Everything he did I have written down. He is my only son and they want to hurt him after all he has done for his country.”

Occasionally on the way to court in the morning, in the truck a friend lent Nazario until the trial is over, she rubs the back of his shaven head like she did when he was a kid with curly black hair.

“His son Gabriel has hair like that,” she said on the way to court Friday morning. “He doesn’t even have to comb it because it is so curly and beautiful.”

Nazario merely shook his head and laughed softly, something he rarely does once he enters the courthouse.

“He can’t sleep, he can’t eat. At night he tosses and sits up in bed all night. He isn’t going to show it, Marines aren’t supposed to show emotion, but this is hurting him deeply. He was so proud to be a Marine,” she said.

It is enough to make a person choke back tears of his own.

Assistant US Attorney Jerry Behnke doesn’t care about what a great kid and stand-out Marine Nazario used to be. He is only interested in getting a victory. He claims it will be good for the country.

His efforts were already dealt a body blow Tuesday when Larson suppressed an important incriminating statement made by Weemer to the Secret Service, the statement that triggered the investigation. Behnke exploded into anger when the two Marines told him they refused to testify. Without their eyewitness testimony, the prosecution’s already shaky case slides further into doubt.

Weemer and Nelson are currently under open arrest at Camp Pendleton, waiting to go to court-martial for murder and dereliction of duty. Nelson is scheduled to go on trial in December and Weemer is scheduled to be arraigned Monday.

He is expected to plead not guilty, his attorney Christopher B. Johnson said.

“There is a charade being perpetrated on this court," Behnke charged Friday, demanding that both men be immediately confined for six months, the maximum punishment a misdemeanor conviction for criminal contempt allows.

“It is not fair and right to the United States or this government’s case,” he fumed.

Unmoved, Larson urged Behnke to “take the long view that in the end justice will be served.”

Larson, who has shown remarkable restraint during the entire bizarre proceeding, shrugged off Behnke’s demand to immediately jail the Marines. Instead, he ordered the men before his bench on September 29th to decide what he ought to do with them.

“There is no maximum limit to what sentence this court can impose,” he warned the assembled cast.

Both Nelson and Weemer already spent three weeks in civilian confinement in May and June after Larson, and another US district judge, sent them to the slammer for refusing to testify to the Grand Jury that indicted Nazario. They never budged.

"Placing either of these two men in jail would have no effect,” Larson reasoned. “There is probably not a whole lot in this world that these men fear."

The heated exchanges between Larson and Behnke and the defense teams are merely the latest development in the first federal trial in which a civilian jury will decide whether the alleged actions of a Marine under orders in combat violate civilian law.

The issue may never be decided unless Nelson and Weemer testify, Behnke warned.

Weemer and Nelson told Larson there was nothing that could compel them to testify. Their lawyers, Christopher B. Johnson and Joseph Low, told the court that both Marines believed the government’s offer of testimonial immunity was not enough protection to guard them against Marine Corps legal retribution.

Behnke called Low’s effort to shield his client from prosecution “a charade,” and the lawyer and former Marine took umbrage.

“He will not testify,” Low said. “And I take issue with the characterization this is a charade.”

Weemer's attorney Christopher B Johnson asked the judge for leniency, arguing that the thrice wounded Marine was already fighting for his life. He asked Larson to make a summary judgment and sentence the Marines to time already served.

"Look at the Purple Heart on his chest," Johnson said, “and think of what it must take this Marine to refuse a lawful command. To him, this is a nightmare."

Larson demurred, arguing that upholding the honor of the Marine Corps was a Marines’ most important responsibility.

"This court is once again calling on his honor and integrity," Larson said.

Behnke revealed that both Weemer and Nelson were offered government deals to testify against Nazario, something long rumored since the deals were offered last month. He said that Nelson, who was once cooperating with the government, was even offered a chance to testify in return for the dismissal of his murder charge, no jail time for a guilty plea for dereliction of duty, and the option to remain in the Marine Corps.

Weemer was also offered a deal that he apparently rejected out of hand.

Nazario's federal trial marks the first time a civilian jury will decide whether the alleged actions of a former service member in combat violate civilian laws. The law, called the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act or MEJA, was written in 2000 to give the federal government a means to prosecute service members and civilians who violate US law overseas

Nazario, 28, has pleaded not guilty to voluntary manslaughter, causing others to murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and discharging a firearm during a crime of violence.

Weemer was ordered this month to stand trial in military court on charges of unpremeditated murder and dereliction of duty in the killing of an unarmed detainee in Fallujah..

Nelson is scheduled for court-martial in December on charges of unpremeditated murder and dereliction of duty. His lawyer says he is innocent.


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NAZARIO TRIAL, DAY ONE: "This kind of case is supposed to be in a military court"

FALLUJAH MURDER CASE: THE TRIAL OF JOSE NAZARIO [LIVE THREAD]

1 posted on 08/23/2008 12:55:32 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...

2 posted on 08/23/2008 1:02:19 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover
Well, prosecute in Civil Court, and you get the civil style of defense. KUDOs to these Marines.

They continue to serve their nation, even when placed in jeopardy.

The liberal leftie prosecution wants to brand these men as criminals, when all they did was the duty they saw fit in battle.And they did it in the face of Islamofascists on the field of battle who would have done them a lot worse.

" You killed the wrong person:" argument doesn't work on a battle field. The so called noncombatant one minute can pick up a rifle or grenade the next.

The context of this POLITICAL trial is esentially socialist. Since when is America allowed to have political trials of soldiers? Sounds like something out of Kaffka, or something from the bowels of a commie society.

NOT GUILTY!

3 posted on 08/23/2008 1:14:11 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: Candor7

If Bush had any stones he’d free these Marines right now, but unfortunately he has none.


4 posted on 08/23/2008 1:41:14 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta
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To: Candor7; Jarhead2844; USMCWriter; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ..
Those who continue to prosecute can go to hell.
5 posted on 08/23/2008 2:06:57 PM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: freema

Yeah, Ma. I just discovered this one today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-u6kLmZrVs

I talk with Sean’s Mom almost every day. She lost Sean on his third tour on July 30, 2007. No one was with her on the 1st anniversary...

Semper Fidelis.


6 posted on 08/23/2008 2:39:55 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: RedRover
Awesome report by Nat Helms. "The Stuff of Legend" is an appropriate title for what these Marines did not only in Fallujah, but in the courtroom.

Larson demurred, arguing that upholding the honor of the Marine Corps was a Marines’ most important responsibility.

"This court is once again calling on his honor and integrity," Larson said.


I think Weemer has found a way to uphold not only his own honor, but that of the Marine Corps, while dealing with the demons that a battle like Fallujah would have on any Marine.
7 posted on 08/23/2008 3:09:12 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: USMCPOP

Damn. That takes my breath away.

Forgetting to breathe, you know.

I let it out.

And forget to take it back in.


8 posted on 08/23/2008 3:12:03 PM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: Girlene
I think Weemer has found a way to uphold not only his own honor, but that of the Marine Corps, while dealing with the demons that a battle like Fallujah would have on any Marine.

And I think you're right.

9 posted on 08/23/2008 3:17:06 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover
Judge Larson appears to be okay from Nat's reporting. Behnke sounds like a complete a$$ and something these Marines would scrape off their boots before coming inside.

Prayers for these guys that justice will set them free.

10 posted on 08/23/2008 3:38:38 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: RedRover

And I think that any military court that has active duty on the jury panel will have a hard time finding either Weemer or Nelson guilty. Assuing the military jury panel is aware of what they did in federal court, I don’t think too many Marines would want to second guess their faithfullness and determination in Nazrio’s case to hang them out to dry. Either way, these two men have laid a lot on the line. Impressive.


11 posted on 08/23/2008 4:12:55 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: RedRover
Assistant US Attorney Jerry Behnke doesn’t care about what a great kid and stand-out Marine Nazario used to be. He is only interested in getting a victory. He claims it will be good for the country.

Har! I'd like to see a photo of this punk Behnke. I'll guess he's a mouse-faced little weasel who ran like a scared bunny rabbit from the playground bullies.

12 posted on 08/23/2008 4:40:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Eagles6
Judge Larson appears to be okay from Nat's reporting.

Or maybe he's just another California judge looking for a TV show. Larson could dismiss the charges and throw this pathetic "case" out of his courtroom anytime he wants. But here we go - - four years later and no bodies, no identifications, no report of a crime, no evidence, no nothing, except the foggy heresay of wartime pseudo-memories. Is somebody friggin' kidding me?

You may think Larson "appears to be okay", but man, I don't trust him.

13 posted on 08/23/2008 4:51:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Unfortunately, there’s a very strict “no-photo” policy even on the sidewalks outside the courtroom. Nat has his camera with him but hasn’t been able to make use of it.

So that picture will have to wait.


14 posted on 08/23/2008 5:03:11 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Girlene

Agreed, Girl.


15 posted on 08/23/2008 5:11:51 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: All; joanie-f
We don't have a Justice System anymore, now it's a Legal System where guilt or innocence is not the prime concern. If Nancy Grace, Chris Mattews or Dan Abrams chooses to review your case and says you are guilty then you are guilty by God and there is no other choice. Their accusation should be sufficient to close the case or so many Americans believe. No wonder we have articles such as As of October, FBI To Allow Warrantless Investigations appearing on FR.

If you won't fight for your rights and the rights of others, then for Pete's sake don't complain when you lose them.

16 posted on 08/23/2008 5:29:35 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: B4Ranch
If you won't fight for your rights and the rights of others, then for Pete's sake don't complain when you lose them.

Bears repeating.

Love your tagline, by the way.

17 posted on 08/23/2008 5:33:21 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Lancey Howard

Just sayin’ from Nat’s reporting. You’re right, if he was really okay he would throw the case out and put the DA in jail.


18 posted on 08/23/2008 5:48:28 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: B4Ranch
B4, there are so many domestic forces (political/academic/media) working against our military that it’s hard to keep track of the latest assault.

I happened to be discussing this case with a fellow township official at my office late yesterday. He knew nothing about it until I brought it up. (I can’t blame him for that. The mainstream media coverage it is receiving is all but non-existent.) When I explained to him the particulars, he was livid, and, after we discussed Nazario’s tragedy-in-the-making, he blurted out, ‘I really don’t know why anyone would want to enlist anymore.’ He (and I, to a degree, as well) believes that our military is fighting every bit as hard a battle against the enemies of America within our borders as those outside of them. And he said that he doesn’t really comprehend what they are fighting to preserve.

It was different during World War II (and even, to a degree, in Vietnam, before the societal rot had assumed a vice-like grip). There were values and freedoms that needed defending. And the majority of Americans embraced those values and held dear those freedoms.

That is no longer the case.

I posted a photo on my weblog, months back, of a Marine in Iraq who had pasted on his locker a crudely-written sign: ‘The Marines are facing the enemy in Iraq. America is at the mall.’

While I hold our military in the highest respect, like my friend, I believe they are defending virtues and values that no longer exist – at least not in the minds and hearts of most Americans. And certainly not in the minds and hearts of our leaders.

God bless Jose Nazario, and the thousands like him who are laying their lives on the line for a nation, the majority of whose citizens value the accumulation of creature comforts, and the ability to be ‘entertained’, far more than the timeless treasures of liberty and sovereignty that these men are willing to die to preserve.

Before leaving the subject of citizen ignorance and apathy, let me tell you something I did today that added to my discouragement in that regard ...

My husband and I are very interested in seeing the movie I.O.U.S.A. – a critically-acclaimed documentary that focuses on examining our ever-growing national debt, and the impact it will eventually have on our republic. It was just released so we have been attempting, in various ways, to find out where it is playing. Of course, since it is a hard-hitting story regarding something about which every American should be deeply concerned, its release appears to be very limited. As a matter of fact, we have visited numerous movie websites, including the producer’s own, and have been unable to discover the theater closest to us that is showing it (We are willing to travel a significant distance).

In the process, I have come across listings for probably twenty-five different movies that are showing within a fifty-mile radius of our house, hardly any of which I have heard about, and absolutely none of which I would want to see – even if they were playing in my front yard, admission were free, and I were carried from my house into my theater seat (and offered free buttered popcorn).

Bread and circuses, anyone?

~ joanie

19 posted on 08/23/2008 5:51:17 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: RedRover; freema

I cannot help but think just how many more Marines and soldiers are going to find themselves in similar shoes as these charades are allowed to continue. It is open season on those that have served their country during war time conditions.


20 posted on 08/23/2008 5:57:30 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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