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Grand jury hands down three new (FLDS) sect indictments
gosanangelo ^ | August 21, 2008 | PAUL A. ANTHONY

Posted on 08/21/2008 6:29:23 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland

A Schleicher County grand jury today handed down three new felony indictments in the state's polygamist sect investigation, a court clerk said.

Schleicher County District Clerk Peggy Williams said the indictments involve three individuals. It's unclear whether those individuals are new defendants or suspects already charged in the probe.

The identities of those individuals were not immediately available. Neither were the actual charges listed in the indictments.

The grand jury last month indicted six members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

Court hearings for those individuals is scheduled for Sept. 8, authorities said.

The grand jury plans to reconvene on Sept. 23, Williams said.

Sect spokesman Willie Jessop was one of six witnesses subpoenaed today. When asked about his testimony, Jessop told reporters: "We certainly believe there is a God. We believe he will judge all. Those who judge will be judged themselves."

In related action today, a case involving Lloyd Barlow, a physician at the sect's YFZ compound near Eldorado, was transferred to the Schleicher County court system. He is facing three charges of failing to report child abuse, a misdemeanor. He was among the six members of FLDS indicted last month.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flds; jeffs; yfzranch
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To: allmendream
How about Jeff’s 14 year old “spiritual bride” who has children. I suppose she wasn’t “raped” either. Must have been a virgin birth then because any sex with a girl under 14 in Texas is rape.

Jeff's has a 14 year old bride, with children? Sorry but I am not buying it.

I hate to be the one to break the news to you but Jeffs is in prison and has been for a couple of years.

101 posted on 08/22/2008 10:22:37 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
Your posts claiming that the FLDS are immoral and misguided are persecution.

No, they're not. If they break the law they are wrong. Statutory rape is immoral as recognized by all normal people and it is illegal. Very few would defend it and even fewer would consider that condemning rape or law breaking is religious persecution.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/persecute

No, they're not.

Main Entry: per·se·cute

1: to harass or punish in a manner designed to injure, grieve, or afflict; specifically : to cause to suffer because of belief

2: to annoy with persistent or urgent approaches (as attacks, pleas, or importunities)

Show me where I harassed or punished any FLDS member. Or where I caused them to suffer. Or where even annoyed them with persistence.

102 posted on 08/22/2008 10:22:56 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: JRochelle
I have a young son. I am teaching him my beliefs, that there is right and there is wrong. I am teaching him that is important to be a good person, a good man, a man who respects the fairer sex.

I suppose you are also teaching him about the minor who gave birth to Christ out of wedlock too?

So much for respecting the fairer sex : (

103 posted on 08/22/2008 10:25:58 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
I think that the writing lessons are more in order for someone who can't get their point across clearly like when they say.....

Oh lets see. The persecution of the FLDS for their beliefs? By you. The extermination order against the Mormons?

You never said anything about anyone else ordering the extermination of Mormons. That was clearly the sentence following your accusation against me about persecution of FLDS.

FWIW, why are you using the terms FLDS and Mormons interchangeably? First, it's persecution of FLDS and then suddenly you switch gears and talk about the extermination of Mormons as if it's the same thing.

Why are you equating the persecution of FLDS with the extermination of Mormons?

So go ahead, show me where I ordered the extermination of Mormons.

104 posted on 08/22/2008 10:28:52 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: LeGrande

Prosecution for law breaking is not persecution of religious beliefs.


105 posted on 08/22/2008 10:30:55 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: LeGrande
I hate to be the one to break the news to you but Jeffs is in prison and has been for a couple of years.

Are you that clueless about what he's in prison FOR? Or don't you consider child rape a crime?

106 posted on 08/22/2008 10:33:12 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: LeGrande

I apologize. It was the mother of one of Warren Jeff’s brides who refused to name her children, not the actual child bride herself.


107 posted on 08/22/2008 10:39:16 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I read an article that said the girl who was sent back to foster care cried for 7 straight hours and clung to her mother.

LOLOLOL!

You didn't really believe that did you?

Seven hours? That isn't even physically possible.

LOL

Seven hours?

108 posted on 08/22/2008 10:51:38 AM PDT by JRochelle (Joe Biden says high fructose corn syrup is more dangerous than terrorists.)
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To: LeGrande
I suppose you are also teaching him about the minor who gave birth to Christ out of wedlock too?

For an atheist, you sure are a believer in speculation.

109 posted on 08/22/2008 11:03:22 AM PDT by JRochelle (Joe Biden says high fructose corn syrup is more dangerous than terrorists.)
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To: JRochelle

It’s no surprise that an atheist would deliberately cloud the issue by changing the subject and making innuendos that suggest impropriety about God, Jesus, Mary, etc.

The issue isn’t child brides. It’s about law breaking. It’s statutory rape by pedophiles.

People can believe that polygamy is right all they want, even though they’re wrong. But practicing it is illegal. Sex with under 18 girls is illegal in TX.

There’s no reason in the world that those filthy old perverts could not have waited to *marry* (rape) those girls until they were clearly 18. That’s the issue that got them into this mess.

And just WHY did they have to take as wives any girls under the age of 18? You know the answer to that....Cause they’re pedophiles.

It’s too bad that there are those who defend them. IT goes to show how the moral fabric of our society has deteriorated.


110 posted on 08/22/2008 11:16:35 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: JRochelle

Did you believe TX CPS when they announced they had determined that so many FLDS boys had broken bones? I did not believe it then and I do not believe anything they say to this day.

You trust the government; I do not.


111 posted on 08/22/2008 12:27:31 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: LeGrande; Lurker

There’s an ongoing case where FLDS attorneys are asking that all “evidence” taken during the raid be thrown out because it was all snatched illegally. Don’t hear much about it in the MSM, naturally, Isn’t it amazing how so many FReepers are in bed with the government and the media on this case?


112 posted on 08/22/2008 12:30:21 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Lurker; metmom; All

LOL! He was a damn Socialist looking to violently overthrow the Gov. (or at least preachin it)

I don’t think that applies here. Nice try though.


113 posted on 08/22/2008 12:42:38 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: JRochelle
Even though I'm on many a ping list, being a Texan (and having *special* incite) .....please sign me up.
114 posted on 08/22/2008 12:46:18 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: LeGrande
I suppose you are also teaching him about the minor who gave birth to Christ out of wedlock too?

LG; you KNOW she was married!

115 posted on 08/22/2008 12:54:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Bingo.


116 posted on 08/22/2008 2:27:54 PM PDT by JRochelle (Joe Biden says high fructose corn syrup is more dangerous than terrorists.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
You trust the government; I do not.

Why did you run for public office?

Why would you want to join the ranks of those you do not trust?

From you own page:

16. Ran for U.S. House of Reps. CA Dist 13, Primary 2000. Came in third place over all.

117 posted on 08/22/2008 2:35:35 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Saundra Duffy; Lurker

Yes My guess and several Lawyers that I have talked to all think that in light of the Appeals court and Supreme court ruling, evidence obtained from the first warrant will definitely be thrown out. Fruit of the poison tree and all that.

The question then becomes whether the Second Warrant stands since it was based on the first warrant. If they actually saw crimes committed then it will stand and they can probably claim that the evidence was collected under the jurisdiction of the second warrant. The problem for the State is that also according to the Appeals Court and Supreme Court they didn’t see crimes being carried out.

The second warrant has a much better basis than the first. If they can separate the two warrants then the State probably can use the evidence. The other problem for the State and FLDS is the difference between Civil and Criminal statutes. They seem to be intermingling the two and they are entirely different law.


118 posted on 08/22/2008 4:47:36 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Elsie
LG; you KNOW she was married!

Oh, I forgot, an adulteress too : ( But I suppose you are right, Mary must have had two husbands. When I think of that story, the FLDS don't sound so odd. Except that it is a child with multiple husbands.

119 posted on 08/22/2008 4:52:36 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: metmom
Prosecution for law breaking is not persecution of religious beliefs.

The Extermination Order was directed at anyone who was a Mormon. That is precisely prosecution and persecution based on religious beliefs. How can you claim otherwise?

120 posted on 08/22/2008 4:57:16 PM PDT by LeGrande
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