Lower Court uses Heller Decision to uphold BATFE ban on imported weapons

nationalgunrights.org ^ | 7/24/2008 | NA

[neverdem]

http://www.ssd-weapon.com/engl_web/produkte_en/bd44_en/bd44_en.htm

Komrad Kalashnikov doesn't look so original. The AK-47 looks like a complete ripoff, IMHO.

The source has more stories about Heller being problematic.

[guitarplayer1953]

Why or when did the 2nd amendment get limited to the right to own a gun for just hunting? On could say that all handguns are not for hunting and ban all of them. This is ridiculous.

[Leisler]

The 2nd is for the citizen to be able to violently overthrow the government.

It's not about hunting. It's not about crime.

[Impy]

Absurd of course. At the time the amendment was written banning hunting would been considered ludicrous on the level of gay marriage.

[wastoute]

Oh, but the violent overthrow of gummint is a crime. Ask the gummint.

[SpaceBar]

The weeds of tyranny encroaching on the vacant lot of liberty.

[neverdem]

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[Goldsborough]

"The plaintiff, proceeding pro se. . . ."

"The plaintiff, a cheap, egomaniacal moron. . . ."

I just love guys who butcher a case that buggers the rest of the firearms owners in a circuit. Those decisions go on to be cited in other circuits.

The BATFE needs to be attacked by professionals, not the legal equivalent of clowns.

[FreedomCalls]

They went on to restate the Heller Decision language that the Second Amendment wasn't unlimited

That one line is all that the courts will ever use from Heller.

"[l]ike most rights, the Second Amendment is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."

That's the only part the courts will focus on. Nothing else said in it will matter. They will keep chipping away at which weapons and and for what purpose thay are permitted. Mark my word.

[guitarplayer1953]

Then how did it get reduced to hunting? If guns can only be imported on the basis of their ability to be used for hunting then that is the first step of being able to take handguns since they are not for hunting.

[LRS]

The lower court agreed with the BATFE's findings that the firearms Mr. Mullenix wanted to import were not "generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes."

Uh, since the Olympics themselves have shooting competitions that don't involve killing something, isn't shooting itself a sport?

[Happy Rain]

Call them what they are: BAT FEces.

[Chinstrap61a]

Dang BATFE; looks like a really good quality version of the MP-44 and I'd like to have owned one.

The only down side is that it would be a semiauto and the ammo is really expensive when you can find it...

[mylife]

The lower court agreed with the BATFE's findings that the firearms Mr. Mullenix wanted to import were not "generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes."

The 2nd isnt about "sport"

[Weya]

Has everyone read the book “Unintended Consequences”?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1888118040/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link

For those that haven’t, it’s part history and part fiction. In it, members of the “gun culture” start taking out BATF members and activist judges, then posting in the classifieds ads pointing out how easy it was, and that BATF members should quit their jobs or suffer the same fate.

They left in droves, and eventually, things started to get better.

Now I would NEVER advocate someone break the law, but wouldn’t it be interesting if the revolution was fought guerilla style like that?

[Erik Latranyi]

They will keep chipping away at which weapons and and for what purpose thay are permitted.

When everybody was celebrating Heller, I was urging caution, telling everyone that we did not win anything significant. Future courts could limit our 'right' to be exercised only in the home as everywhere else will be deemed off-limits and anything other than handguns too dangerous.

While Lucas is a lib, remember the words of Yoda admonishing Obi-Wan when Obi-Wan called their battle against the droids a 'victory'?

Yoda said: "Victory, you say? Master Obi-Wan.....not victory. The shroud of the Dark Side has fallen. Begun the Clone War has."

So it is with the Second Amendment. We won a single battle by a 5-4 vote. The war could easily be lost.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Activist local judges will always rule against liberty. Always have, always will. It doesn’t have any effect on us unless this were appealed and upheld. But you can bet that SCOTUS doesn’t take crappy pro se cases.

This would be news only if the court had ruled the other way.

[B4Ranch]

I suggest everyone read the book “Term Limits” by Vince Flynn.

[absolootezer0]

that is the first step of being able to take handguns since they are not for hunting.

not for hunting? tell that to this deer. .44mag, 70 yards.

[Joe Brower]

First I've heard of this.

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