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Coroner: Cyanide Poisoning Victim Killed Himself
7NEWS (Denver, CO) ^ | August 20, 2008

Posted on 08/20/2008 10:11:36 PM PDT by Gondring

DENVER -- A Canadian national found dead inside an upscale Denver hotel with a pound of highly toxic sodium cyanide had killed himself, the deputy coroner said Wednesday.

However, a spokesman for Dirie's family said he finds the idea that it was suicide "ridiculous."

Saleman Abdirahman Dirie, 29, was found dead inside the Burnsley hotel on Aug. 11. In his hotel room, firefighters found nearly a pound of sodium cyanide -- the crystal form of cyanide

"This office completed an autopsy. The test results have been returned to our office and the decedent was positive for ingesting cyanide. The manner of death is suicide," said Denver Chief Deputy Coroner Michelle Weiss-Samaras.

Family members told reporters that Dirie, a Somali refugee, had been depressed and suffered from schizophrenia. However, Omar Jamal, executive director of the Somali Justice Advocacy Center, said he "strongly disagrees" with the coroner's ruling.

"The Advocacy Center is still involved in this case and finds the suicide idea ridiculous. If Mr. Dirie's intention was to commit suicide, he could have done so in Canada," Jamal said. "The community finds this recent ruling very strange. I am saddened and still puzzled by this ruling and hope we will go to the bottom of the case soon."

With the approaching Democratic National Convention, there were fears that Dirie's death may have been part of a terrorism plot. The FBI's terrorism task force was called in to investigate, but FBI spokeswoman Kathy Wright told 7NEWS there was no apparent connection to terrorism. Denver police said Dirie's death is an isolated incident and no foul play is suspected.

Investigators still have not said how Dirie obtained the cyanide, how he came to the United States, and why the Ottawa man was staying at a luxury hotel in Denver.

Dirie, a Muslim, was buried last Thursday after a service at the Colorado Muslim Society's Abu Baker mosque.

Jamal said Dirie was unemployed and not particularly religious.

"He had no money. Whoever gave him the money for that hotel may have also given him the cyanide. We need to find that person," Jamal told the Denver Post.

However, Denver police spokesman John White assured that the kind of cyanide Dirie had could be purchased anywhere, since it's the primary ingredient in rat poison.

Dirie told family members that he was going to Denver for vacation. Dirie's sister told CanWest News Service that her brother had been on medication for the past three years to treat his schizophrenia, but that he was not a terrorist.

He was dead for six days inside Room 408 before he was discovered. After the coroner alerted police that cyanide was suspected, firefighters and hazmat crews shut down the hotel for hours and cordoned off the neighborhood.

Cyanide could be fatal if it is inhaled, ingested or touched. It prevents the body from processing oxygen, so it can quickly damage the heart, brain and other organs. It can also be used as a chemical weapon and was used as a genocidal agent by the Nazis in World War II, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The upscale Burnsley Hotel is about two miles away from the Pepsi Center, where the DNC will be held from Aug. 25-Aug. 27. However, it is not on the list of hotels where delegates are staying.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: cyanide; denver; dirie; suicide
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To: Gondring

Just a question, are there any restrictions on buying it?


21 posted on 08/20/2008 10:44:46 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: Gondring

Often, the simplest explanation is the correct one.


22 posted on 08/20/2008 10:47:20 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Gondring

this is kinda like those carbombs go off early.. in the manufacture process and takes out the terrorist.. lol


23 posted on 08/20/2008 10:47:41 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: Gondring

Some may. I prefer shooting up cyanide.


24 posted on 08/20/2008 10:47:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Califreak; mouse1
Want to know something really odd? When I worked as hotel security in high school, I never encountered a suicide--rich or poor--who was able to pay his bill! Amazing factoid, eh?

Hint: if you're checking out of life, then you don't have to worry about checking out of the hotel!

(Still, there's a possibility/liklihood that he was in the room without the knowledge of the hotel management.)

Looking into possible terrorist ties would be prudent, despite the way this screams "suicide"... But prudent investigation doesn't mean there's a likelihood of this being anything. Just ask Vince Weiguang Li, Hossam Armanious, Athanassios Arvanitis, Wayne K. Simpson, etc., all of whom were described by the FR community as having a Muslim connection.

But the great thing about tinfoil is that it's reusable... just keep slapping it back on whenever there's an explosion or anything to do with a Muslim (or even non-Muslim, if there's a beheading) in the news!

25 posted on 08/20/2008 10:50:34 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
Uh, killing himself.

So let's see if I got this right.

He flew - or worse yet drove, hundreds, maybe 1000+ miles from Canada to Denver, bought this atypical "rat poison", then put himself up at a "luxury hotel", though his family says he had no money, 2 blocks from the DNC convention, all in an attempt to suicide? Is that what you're saying?

Color me skeptical.

26 posted on 08/20/2008 10:51:57 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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To: UCANSEE2

William of Ockham’s is shaving woth suicide. ;-)


27 posted on 08/20/2008 10:52:01 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Woth he really?


28 posted on 08/20/2008 10:54:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica; Gondring

Doesn’t make sense to me either.

I never take my foil hat off.

It protects me from the radio waves and reptilian shapeshifters who are planting thoughts in my head!


29 posted on 08/20/2008 10:57:03 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: Gondring
Actually, it's not much. Have you ever bought it, or were you just speculating? I suspect the latter. :-)

This wasn't directed to me, but...

Do a lot of Joe six packs or widget salesmen carry this stuff around with them? Perhaps it is the fashionable thing to do nowadays.   /s

So this is no cause for concern, in your viewpoint?
30 posted on 08/20/2008 10:57:44 PM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

I wonder if there will be a bunch of ‘copycat’ suiciders at the Denver Convention?

They might not need that ‘Gitmo on the Plaza’.


31 posted on 08/20/2008 11:00:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Gondring
He was dead for six days inside Room 408 before he was discovered.

Don't they service the rooms there?

32 posted on 08/20/2008 11:02:43 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: UCANSEE2
lol. I know what you're saying, but like a poster upstream, I just wouldn't get it.

At the GOP convention I could see. Most of us are radically opposed to Islam and their terrorists.

But the way the Dems coddle and protect them, I can't see WHY the 'slims would be out to get them.

33 posted on 08/20/2008 11:04:22 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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To: Califreak
"reptilian shapeshifters"

I've seen their disguises.


34 posted on 08/20/2008 11:04:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Gondring
I got my answer in a later post. So you think he bought a pound of cyanide just to off himself?

There are a lot of pieces to the puzzle that make this seem worthy of concern, but then again, you may be right.

I guess that's what comes with not being omniscient, doggone it!

35 posted on 08/20/2008 11:05:01 PM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: Gondring
However, a spokesman for Dirie's family said he finds the idea that it was suicide "ridiculous." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Of course it is ridiculous.

The physical indicators lead to a conclusion of suicide, but that finding is inconsistend withthe circumstantial facts.

My conclusion is that the FBI is very busy working this case, have few leads, and do not want to upset the network they are trying to find, which has gone to cover.They want things to be very quiet surrounding this case for both investigative reasons and political ones ( the convention goers must feel safe.) This is easy to conclude. Just put yourself in the shoes of the FBI.

Thanks for the ping.

BTW, if I were attending the convention, I would be consuming only what I would have brought with me ( food and drink). I would also be carrying.

It would be inetersting if he somehow had connections with the Arkanicide faction of the Clinton campaign. Another reason why this may have been hushed up. Another Sirhan Sirhan in the making who did not go all the way?

36 posted on 08/20/2008 11:06:22 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: UCANSEE2

I knew the greys were real!

LOL!


37 posted on 08/20/2008 11:07:43 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: BulletBobCo

“He was dead for six days inside Room 408 before he was discovered.”

(that’s because it wasn’t room 408. It was room 1408)

1408
http://tvshack.net/movies/1408__2007_/


38 posted on 08/20/2008 11:09:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Gondring

“...and I imagine they’d wonder why you wanted only a small amount!”

Yeah, I guess asking for a “single serving” would raise a few eyebrows!

:)


39 posted on 08/20/2008 11:11:52 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

“I can’t see WHY the ‘slims would be out to get them.”

Perhaps the plan was to kill a bunch of protesters, and make it look like the ‘vast right wing conspiracy’ did it.

But he chickened out, got depressed, and took the easy way out.


40 posted on 08/20/2008 11:19:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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