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Georgian Anger Builds in Gori
wall street journal ^ | 8-20-08 | YAROSLAV TROFIMOV

Posted on 08/20/2008 3:13:54 PM PDT by MarMema

"You are in the wrong. Why are you here, taking away our land? This is Georgian land, not Russian," 78-year-old Guram Psuturi harangued a Russian soldier he encountered on the city's main square, dominated by a giant statue of the Gori-born Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin. "When are you going to leave here?" shouted an old woman nearby.

The soldier, who declined to give his name but said he hails from Chechnya, itself the target of Russian military might in the past, responded with an embarrassed smile. "How can I know when we leave? This is all up to the governments -- we simple soldiers are slaves and do what we're told," he said before getting into his truck and driving away.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; georgia; gori; war
An organized demonstration against the occupation happened Wednesday at the Russian military checkpoint on the main highway between Gori and capital city Tbilisi. About a hundred protesters -- most of whom drove down from Tbilisi -- walked past Russian soldiers while holding Georgian flags and waving banners that proclaimed "Georgia is not a Russian colony" in Russian. The Russian troops -- aware that three more military checkpoints are located farther up the road -- didn't interfere.
1 posted on 08/20/2008 3:13:54 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: cricket; dixiechick2000; Recovering Ex-hippie; Army Air Corps; SolidWood; eastforker

With apologies to anyone I missed on the ping, and posted to show that the Georgians have tremendous courage.


2 posted on 08/20/2008 3:15:12 PM PDT by MarMema (The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside)
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To: Jeff Head

As this article states, they are BETWEEN Gori and Tbilisi.
Look at a map to see that they are way into Georgia and calling it a checkpoint.


3 posted on 08/20/2008 3:16:28 PM PDT by MarMema (The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside)
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To: MarMema
I know. These are their current checkpoints.

They are unwarrented and not a part of the cease-fire agreement.

But if they do what the Russian leadership said about the 18 checkpoints that are in line with the cease fire, then they will fall back to those proposed checkpoints around Ossetia when (if ever) they do pull back. That's what they are saying.

Now we will see if they do it and honor their commitment.

4 posted on 08/20/2008 3:21:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: MarMema
This is what the Russians are saying today about the 18 checkpoints...HERE.
5 posted on 08/20/2008 3:23:17 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: MarMema
Putin has studied the German design for WW2. I doubt if the Russians intend to fall back even while they say they are. I suspect they are hoping for an attack my Georgia to start the push to take the country.
6 posted on 08/20/2008 3:25:28 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Jeff Head

>>Now we will see if they do it and honor their commitment. >>

LOLOLOL BWAHAHAHHHAHHH!!! Thanks for the moment of hilarity.


7 posted on 08/20/2008 3:26:38 PM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: MarMema
encountered on the city's main square, dominated by a giant statue of the Gori-born Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin.

I'm sorry, I've lost any sympathy I had for the residents of Gori, after realizing they still had up a statue in honor of that monster.

8 posted on 08/20/2008 3:26:54 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: Righter-than-Rush

Yea...I forgot my [/dripping sarcasm] tag...but I figured everyone here knew anyway.


9 posted on 08/20/2008 3:35:09 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: MarMema
How many of these will fit inside a C-17?

10 posted on 08/20/2008 3:37:45 PM PDT by wolficatZ ("Bear suits are funny. Bears are funny" - Christopher Walken (Russian bears aren't so funny))
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To: MarMema

I would watch my back if I were a Russian in Georgia.


11 posted on 08/20/2008 4:47:05 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: dfwgator

It’s a tourist attraction. He was born there and his original home was also there for touring.


12 posted on 08/20/2008 5:11:26 PM PDT by MarMema (The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside)
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To: MarMema

“we simple soldiers are slaves and do what we’re told,” he said before getting into his truck and driving away.”

Wow.


13 posted on 08/20/2008 6:55:04 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: dfwgator

I guess you won't mind if they bomb and pillage Seattle too.

14 posted on 08/20/2008 7:42:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36, Moscow '80, Beijing '08 ... Olympic games for murdering regimes.)
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To: TigersEye

We have very precise munitions available....lol! Is this really in Seattle? I was there in June and didn’t see it.


15 posted on 08/20/2008 8:01:44 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: MarMema

So why don’t they put a statue of Hitler in Vienna?


16 posted on 08/20/2008 8:57:12 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: ChinaThreat

It really is in Seattle. I have been there once but I’m not real familiar with the city. So, I can’t tell you exactly where it is. If I obtain the coordinates I will forward them to you. ;^)


17 posted on 08/20/2008 9:11:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36, Moscow '80, Beijing '08 ... Olympic games for murdering regimes.)
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To: dfwgator

Well, Seattle has a statue of Lenin, without any sense of irony.


18 posted on 08/20/2008 9:14:22 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Clemenza

The statue is in the Fremont area - just north of downtown Seattle. Every once in awhile I need to go there on business. Typical University style liberal neighborhood with VWs with Impeach Bush bumper stickers.

I get the irony of the statue - in front of a restaurant and other stores and businesses that all are selling things, etc. to the liberal commie loving idiots. All in the name of a profit! Gotta love it as they sip on their $4.50 lattes. I like it that “Lenin” has to watch all of the freedoms that we have (including folks having signs and leaflets saying nasty things about the nation’s president!)

I believe that the previous owner also got the statue for that reason (to show how capitalism beat the the commies), but for some reason was not able to keep it due to funding, no place to display it or whatever.


19 posted on 08/20/2008 9:32:30 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: dfwgator
In Gori, every hour or so, a Russian military truck motored up to the Stalin statue, in front of the Georgian provincial government building, its windows blown out by Russian bombs. Guns casually slung over their shoulders, the soldiers took turns photographing each other in front of the most famous landmark of the conquered city.

There was no mistaking the hatred in the eyes of a group of Georgian men who stood nearby, chain-smoking as they watched Russian soldiers take their snapshots. "The Russians have shown their true face to the world. For me, the word 'Russian' will now be forever associated with the word 'murderer,' " snapped 52-year-old teacher Zurab Kareli.

20 posted on 08/20/2008 11:39:41 PM PDT by MarMema (Georgia has stood for freedom around the world -- now the world must stand for freedom in Georgia.)
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