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California Attorney General Sues Gun Club Over Forest Fires (6 Million Dollars!)
johnjacobh.wordpress.com ^ | 08/20/08 | johnjacobh.wordpress.com

Posted on 08/20/2008 1:16:13 PM PDT by Copernicus

The suit, filed in late July in Trinity County Superior Court, alleges that the gun club was hosting a “service rifle shoot” on July 29, 2006, in which participants where firing assault weapons, including Ruger Mini 14s and Armalite AR-15s.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; armedcitizen; banglist; rkba
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To: Copernicus

Starting Forest Fires is a criminal offense.
If the CaliMexiHomoia Government had evidence as to who started the fire they would have pressed crinimal charges.
However in Civil Court you can sue anyone for any reason and need very little evidence if any to win.
This is obvoiusly about money. Since CaliMexiHomoia is bankrupt and in serious debt, this action by their AG is hardly surprising....


21 posted on 08/20/2008 1:45:46 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: Copernicus

What if it turns out that the weapon that actually caused the fire isn’t an “assuault weapon? Maybe the offending weapon was a single shot .223?


22 posted on 08/20/2008 1:46:00 PM PDT by umgud
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To: r9etb
From another article, HERE it appears that no one disagrees that the fire started at the gun club during the shoot. The government is alleging that someone was firing tracers and those started the fire. The gun club is arguing that it was either a bullet hitting a piece of iron ore and spreading sparks, or sunlight shining through a broken bottle.
23 posted on 08/20/2008 1:50:03 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Army Air Corps
Perhaps the people known as the Obabanation chose the Mini-14 as their “assault weapon”?

The Kalifornia AG is walking, talking proof of the Proctological Theory of Theology. That theological construct is based upon the hypothesis that the Almighty must be a proctologist, because only a proctologist could love a$$holes to have allowed so many of them to be walking the streets.

24 posted on 08/20/2008 1:57:52 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

The “Trinity” paper is rather far from ‘divinely accurate’. Examine, if you will, the following quote from the article:
“The complaint filed through the state Attorney General’s Office at the Trinity County Courthouse alleges that the gun club was negligent in failing to maintain dry brush at the range.”

“.. failing to maintain dry brush” ? ? ? ?

Dry brush and/or dry grass was the problem, but the presstitute didn’t understand what was really the issues in this case.


25 posted on 08/20/2008 2:04:08 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

The “Trinity” paper is rather far from ‘divinely accurate’. Examine, if you will, the following quote from the article:
“The complaint filed through the state Attorney General’s Office at the Trinity County Courthouse alleges that the gun club was negligent in failing to maintain dry brush at the range.”

“.. failing to maintain dry brush” ? ? ? ?

Dry brush and/or dry grass was the problem, but the presstitute didn’t understand what was really the issues in this case.


26 posted on 08/20/2008 2:04:18 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Copernicus
And so what if it was their fault?

Years back, there was a fire lit by a homeless illegal living in the scrub. They caught him and let him go.

Next week, a hunter's cigarette lit the scrub on fire somewhere else, they fined him hundreds of thousands.

Last year, most of the fires were set, no perps that I ever read about.

Gun club on developable land with water and septic, though, sue them into bankruptcy so they can sell.

27 posted on 08/20/2008 2:13:49 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: absolootezer0

Nice set up on the Mini 14. I prefer a solid stock, but still thats damn nice,


28 posted on 08/20/2008 2:25:41 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: Lurking Libertarian

From the beginning it was broadcast that the fire was started because of firearms target practice. I just hope that the club has good liability insurance.


29 posted on 08/20/2008 2:41:42 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let all Democrats have a half vote. They deserve it!)
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To: Army Air Corps

Well,,,they do shoot the same caliber as the AR15’s. Sensationalism at its best.


30 posted on 08/20/2008 3:01:53 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: ßuddaßudd
Sensationalism at its best.

Prezactly. I wonder what they would say about my SKS?
31 posted on 08/20/2008 3:39:54 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

You are a threat to society.


32 posted on 08/20/2008 3:49:06 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: DBrow
Gun club on developable land with water and septic, though, sue them into bankruptcy so they can sell.

They don't own it. It's BLM land leased by the county. Apparently the local gun club just ran it. Also, don't assume that just because this is in California that it's ripe for development. Trinity county is as boonies as you can get. It doesn't have a single incorporated town or a single stoplight. It's pretty much all mountains and forest, with a couple of state highways snaking through the river bottoms. The population density is about 4 people per square mile. It's also thoroughly Republican. The last Democratic presidential candidate to win there was Lyndon Johnson.

33 posted on 08/20/2008 5:26:59 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: absolootezer0

That’s a pretty rifle. I just don’t like forward hand grips.


34 posted on 08/20/2008 7:29:11 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Copernicus

This just in... Assault weapons cause lightning strikes! Film at 11:00!


35 posted on 08/20/2008 9:40:11 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: r9etb
If the shooters actually did cause the fire, then I guess they should get the same treatment as anybody else who causes a fire ... and this is it.

According to the link, the cause of the fire is criminal mismanagement of forest resources by Government Policies.

Best regards,

36 posted on 08/20/2008 9:47:10 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: John123
If the state can prove their case... then it is the Gun Club's responsibility to make good.

Apparently if the fuel load was at the proper level in the forest, these fires would not be as disasterous as they have become.

Best regards,

37 posted on 08/20/2008 9:50:27 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: FFranco

I think in civil cases, neither side is entitled to any presumption, so the standard is “preponderance of evidence”, meaning that whoever achieves 50.01% or better wins.


38 posted on 08/21/2008 4:35:32 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Copernicus
You could be right about that. Let's see how the court decides the liability...

best regards

39 posted on 08/21/2008 8:04:56 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: John123
Let's see how the court decides the liability...

In California? BAHAHAHAHAHAHA! They will slam that gun club as hard as they can.

Best regards,

40 posted on 08/21/2008 3:11:17 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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