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Gun owners got letters
The Tulsa World ^ | 8/20/08 | Manny Gamallo

Posted on 08/20/2008 7:12:04 AM PDT by T-Bird45

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To: T-Bird45
... Oklahoma does not have a gun-registry law nor a central database of gun owners.

They do now.

41 posted on 08/20/2008 8:15:07 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Who would McQueeg rather have mad at him: You or the liberals? FREE LAZAMATAZ!)
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To: Fido969
On what authority? If I were a gun owner - I would sue because my privacy rights had been violated.

I don't know of any laws requiring gun dealers to keep your gun purchases confidential. It's usually bad for business to tell people what one of your customers bought without good reason, but I don't think it's illegal.

I wouldn't think the gun dealers would be required to release the information of who bought a particular type of gun without a court order, but I really don't know.

I'm pretty sure that there is no enumerated right to not have another private individual reveal what they sold to you.

42 posted on 08/20/2008 8:15:53 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: catman67

If I was the parent of one of those kids, I wouldn’t give a rat’s ass if your rights were “violated”.

When it comes to innocent kids, I don’t care if the cops have to fly the black flag.


43 posted on 08/20/2008 8:16:41 AM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Rocky Mountain High
If it were your kids that were murdered, would you feel the same way?

If my kids were murdered and the police were wasting time harassing innocent law-abiding citizens while the trail of the murderer went cold I'd be FURIOUS.

44 posted on 08/20/2008 8:17:16 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: CDHart

Profiling.

It is “likely” that is came from a source nearby.


45 posted on 08/20/2008 8:17:43 AM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: sam_paine

Suuuuuuure you would.


46 posted on 08/20/2008 8:18:38 AM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: CDHart
Why are they only pursuing the local gun owners?

Here is your answer from the article:

Authorities believe the killers are from the Weleetka area, given the remote location of the girls' slayings. They said the killers had to be familiar with the area — N. 3890 Road (County Line Road) north of Coleman Road, about four miles northeast of Weleetka.

47 posted on 08/20/2008 8:20:27 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Rocky Mountain High

Wonderful! I can picture your armband right now!


48 posted on 08/20/2008 8:23:47 AM PDT by catman67
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To: Madistan

Improbable, but possible.

I said I was conflicted about how I would act. The devil is in the details. The police have the right to ask; the citizen has the right to refuse. I see nothing wrong with that.

The way crimes usually get solved is the police eliminate one suspect after another until there’s only one left. Makes it kind of hard on him if the guilty party was never a suspect, though


49 posted on 08/20/2008 8:25:02 AM PDT by chesley (I'm still alive, still employed, & still married. Life is GOOD)
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To: CDHart
The gun could have been purchased 3000 miles away from this community. Why are they only pursuing the local gun owners?

Because the OSBI has to be actively doing something when the reporters write this story, don't they?

It's nice to be able to fall back on the basis that 15 "gun nuts" are posing an obstacle to you solving the murder because they're 'hiding behind silly constitutional protections.'

Wouldn't it be nice if a reporter would actually ask these obvious questions? I mean, if the case has gone cold, and the only way to find the killer is a gun registry, then we need a FEDERAL sweep of all 40 cals, don't we? NOW!

50 posted on 08/20/2008 8:26:19 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: John123

A big problem is, do you trust the ‘ballistic fingerprint’ voodoo enough to risk it? I don’t..

How about if they just force every male in a city to undergo DNA testing after any rape? At least that’s accurate, and about as ‘fair’.


51 posted on 08/20/2008 8:27:36 AM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: Rocky Mountain High
Naturally, I would want the police to do everything that they could. But my feelings would have nothing to do with what the suspect’s rights, or the gun owners rights, or what the police legally could do.

The right thing would be to voluntarily submit to testing. But a person has the right not to, and it may not be because he's guilty. Also, the police have been known to fudge the data, so in any confrontation with the police, I would get some legal advice and weigh my options carefully.

52 posted on 08/20/2008 8:28:39 AM PDT by chesley (I'm still alive, still employed, & still married. Life is GOOD)
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To: T-Bird45; CDHart
Authorities believe the killers are from the Weleetka area, given the remote location of the girls' slayings.

Brilliant. Criminals plan to kill their victims out in remote locations because they're local and planning ahead, but also plan ahead and buy their guns legally and locally, filling out all the forms and eagerly turning in their guns for ballistic testing after the murder.

53 posted on 08/20/2008 8:30:47 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
THEN WHY are the police wasting valuable time harassing local law-abiding citizens rather than trying to pursue meaningful leads?

I am not too sure what your point is... isn't that what the police is doing now? They are trying to find the murder weapon.

54 posted on 08/20/2008 8:35:43 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: sam_paine

.40 cals are very popular with Law Enforcements Agencies.
Do they check their own guns?


55 posted on 08/20/2008 8:36:09 AM PDT by Madistan
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To: misterrob
engaging in illegal searches

Check the story again... so far all requests are voluntary.

56 posted on 08/20/2008 8:37:38 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: MartinStyles
A big problem is, do you trust the ‘ballistic fingerprint’ voodoo enough to risk it? I don’t..

But it isn't an all out ballistic testing of every single weapon in the county... it is a specific, narrow range of caliber handguns. Aren't you going a little overboard here?

I would think if the police is taking a drastic step like this... it means there is little or no forensic evidence to go forward with...

57 posted on 08/20/2008 8:43:08 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: NonValueAdded

The Pennsylvania State Police maintain such a database. The courts ordered them to stop. The PSP simply refused. How they can defy a state court? They did.

Incidentally, the PSP did the same thing. They denied that their ‘database’ was a ‘registry’. Semantic gamesmanship.


58 posted on 08/20/2008 8:43:31 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Oldpuppymax

I have several new, unfired weapons. I would definitely not volunteer them regardless of the circumstances.


59 posted on 08/20/2008 8:44:19 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: sam_paine

Then there’s the possibility that the murderer:
1. bought the gun prior to arriving in town, bought a gun from a Saturday night special or was merely passing through
2. it’s an illegal alien who bought the gun in Mexico

AND this search makes the idiotic assumption that legal gun purchasers are criminals (most criminals don’t buy guns legally).


60 posted on 08/20/2008 8:44:33 AM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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