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Trash talk backfires at the Beijing Olympics
Yahoo! Sports ^ | Aug 18, 2:40 pm EDT | JOHN LEICESTER, AP Olympics Columnist

Posted on 08/19/2008 7:49:52 AM PDT by 7thson

BEIJING (AP)—Yelena Isinbayeva got the Olympic gold and a world record; American Jenn Stuczynski got the silver and a lesson in humility.

And we now have a new rivalry that should make woman’s pole vaulting fun to watch for many more years to come.

Big poles and big mouths don’t go together. Stuczynski knows that now. Pole vaulting isn’t basketball or boxing. It’s far too graceful of a sport for the kind of trash-talk she doled out before the Beijing Games.

“I hope we do some damage,” she had said, “and, you know, kick some Russian butt.”

Big mistake.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; olympics; polevault; russia; unitedstates
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I did not see this article posted so forgive me if it is a dupe. I read the entire article and each sentence becomes more and more anti-United States. It is so blatent it shocks me.

I'm not niave - at least I don't think I am. I know that there are millions of people out there who hate this country. But it still shocks me to see it so blatently displayed. I cannot think of not one country in this world that teaches its citizens to hate their own country. How did we get here? More importantly, how do we stop it?

I do not think highly of Kobe Bryant but I give him kudos for his love of country. Collingsworth sounded shocked that someone - especially a black - could actually be proud of and love the United States.

1 posted on 08/19/2008 7:49:52 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: 7thson

Well, it’s really no different from the French 4x100m freestyle relay swim team saying they had come to “crush the Americans” and then getting beaten by Jason Lezak’s miracle last leg. IMO all these athletes need to just be quiet and let the scoreboard do their talking for them.

}:-)4


2 posted on 08/19/2008 7:52:14 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: 7thson

Your link does not work - it leads to an article titled, “Why losing Liu hurts bad for China.”


3 posted on 08/19/2008 7:52:45 AM PDT by indcons (People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news. - A. J. Liebling)
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To: Moose4

“Well, it’s really no different from the French 4x100m freestyle relay swim team saying they had come to “crush the Americans””

Exactly...and I’ve seen other interviews where foreign players said similar statements about their American counterparts. Hey, it’s sports...it’s bound to happen on all sides.

But those don’t fit the Bash America MSM theme...we only get the “ugly American” stories.


4 posted on 08/19/2008 7:54:22 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: 7thson
Woman’s Pole Vaulting ?

Not touching that one with a 10' pole!

5 posted on 08/19/2008 7:55:27 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 7thson
JOHN LEICESTER

Minor league propagandist and fool.

The AP is getting its butt kicked, newspapers will soon be a thing of the past.

6 posted on 08/19/2008 7:55:52 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: indcons

Scroll down.


7 posted on 08/19/2008 7:58:31 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: 7thson

Women’s pole vaulting hasn’t been fun to watch since Stacy Dragila stopped competing.


8 posted on 08/19/2008 7:59:21 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Conservatives say, 'Seeing is believing.' - - - Liberals say, 'Believing is seeing'.)
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To: indcons

You’re right, it doesn’t work. The new article states it was posted 12 minutes ago. I don’t know how to get to the old article. I will keep trying and post the correct link when I find it. My apologies for now.


9 posted on 08/19/2008 7:59:50 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Moose4

You don’t get it. Read the entire article. It’s not the trash talking I’m commenting on. It’s the absolute worship by the author of the article for the Russian and his total disdain for the American.


10 posted on 08/19/2008 8:01:24 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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So is it the writer’s contention that without Stuczynski’s challenge, Isinbayeva would not have done so well? Way to elevate the game! Declaring the intent to win at the expense of others is not trash talk. “Yo, borscht breath!” and the like would be trash talk.


11 posted on 08/19/2008 8:03:52 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (This line intentionally left blank)
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To: Rome2000

Newspapers won’t be a thing of the past, what they will be is far more local focused, instead of just reprinting AP wire stories, they will be smaller and focused on the local events.. which is a good thing, IMHO.

Harder for national propogandists to influence when you have nothing but small publications publishing local articles vs distributed crap from reuters and ap.


12 posted on 08/19/2008 8:03:56 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 7thson
Link to article.

Who knew pole vaulters trash-talked?
14 posted on 08/19/2008 8:09:21 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." --- Edmund Burke)
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To: Bratch; All

Well, at least we didn’t.....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/2581173/Beijing-Olympics-Now-Argentinas-footballers-photographed-making-slit-eyed-gesture.html


15 posted on 08/19/2008 8:12:28 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: 7thson
Posting of complete AP stories is verboten.
16 posted on 08/19/2008 8:12:47 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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It’s the absolute worship by the author of the article for the Russian and his total disdain for the American

I think you're reading a bit too much into this article. The author isn't really "worshipping" the Russian, or expressing "disdain" for the American. He is pointing out that the American did spout off before the competition, and got some deserved comeuppance. ANYONE who has ever competed in anything knows that it is extremely foolish to make such statements before competing - it just gives your opposition that much more motivation to beat you.

Bottom line is that Yelena Isinbayeva is the greatest female pole vaulter in history - she has demonstrated it many, many times already, and she's still relatively young. And she showed the world last night just how good she is. She made it look incredibly easy, not only to win the gold medal, but to set a new world record.

You have to be an idiot to say anything before the competition against someone who is as good as she is, someone who has already set, and then increased, the world record, 23 times. If you say anything, it should be something more along the lines of, "Yelena Isinbayeva is a great pole vaulter, and it will be an honor to compete against her in Beijing. I'll do my best and we'll see what happens."

17 posted on 08/19/2008 8:20:56 AM PDT by Sicon
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To: 7thson

Not much less sexy than a woman trying to act like a man.


18 posted on 08/19/2008 8:32:37 AM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: 7thson
Big poles and big mouths don’t go together.

They must be having quite the chuckle in the editor's office over that one. Some days you just gotta wonder...

19 posted on 08/19/2008 8:40:32 AM PDT by ProfoundMan (Ward Connerly for VP)
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To: TexasCajun

StuczynSKI

‘Pole’ Vaulter???


20 posted on 08/19/2008 9:16:40 AM PDT by highnoon (God Bless our Troops.....especially our snipers!)
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