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Not everyone should go to college, as many Freepers have said.
1 posted on 08/19/2008 5:09:16 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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I am looking hard at picking up another skill in the trades. The cube life has become less and less of a life in recent years. At times, I thought I would make a decent electrician with all of the electronics I fool with.
2 posted on 08/19/2008 5:16:39 AM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair!)
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oil refineries and export goods has many manufacturers and construction contractors scrambling to find enough skilled workers to plug current and future

Good luck with that, the new iPod generation is way too into themselves to get their hands dirty with that kind of work.

3 posted on 08/19/2008 5:17:06 AM PDT by chaos_5
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I hate how all this talk of the “slumping economy” goes unchecked. First quarter ‘08 saw 0.9% growth, and Q2’08 saw 1.9%. Not great, but certainly no recession, and hardly slumping. Geez.

And yeah, there’s some damn good money to be made in skilled trades.


4 posted on 08/19/2008 5:20:21 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice
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As a design Engineer, it doesn’t matter what I designand schedule, somebody still has to actually MAKE the damn thing.

Die men, Tool makers, and Millwrights are hard to fnd.


5 posted on 08/19/2008 5:23:51 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Oderint dum metuant.)
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Yeah, but these companies don't want to pay any money. I got an offer, after thirty years of industrial electrical maintenance experience, for $16/hour. They all want to pay less and less and want more skills.

They all say, "You can work all the overtime you want". Big deal. I don't want to work sixty hours a week. They want you to work forced overtime, too.

They all bitch and moan that they don't have any skilled workers but they won't institute apprenticeship programs. They want fully trained workers right off the bat. That's not possible. It takes years to understand all the ways to troubleshoot, wire and analyze electrical systems.

We had some guys that just came out of the military. They are not so great. They are good workers but they can't think. They are so used to doing one small job that they can't think around a problem that involves many integrated systems.

The art of troubleshooting, using logic, can't be taught overnight. It takes a while and the person has to be able to think rationally. We all know that isn't taught in today's society.

6 posted on 08/19/2008 5:24:30 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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Even as the economy slumps and unemployment rises, strong demand for power plants, oil refineries and export goods has many manufacturers and construction contractors scrambling to find enough skilled workers to plug current and future holes.

And, all the while, we are busy importing plenty of unskilled workers from overseas.

Frankly, my take on employment is this: you are compensated roughly commensurate with the value that you create for your customer (or employer). If you can be highly productive and create high value by going to college, by all means, do it. If not, join a trade that allows you to do the same. Just keep learning and updating yourself so you stay ahead of the curve.

7 posted on 08/19/2008 5:27:16 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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i WAS WORKING FOR A SERVICE COMPANY FOR THE POWER GENERATION FIELD

DISABLED NOW

HOPE TO RETURN TO SOMETHING, THERE IS MONEY TO BE MADE

caplock :)


9 posted on 08/19/2008 5:28:53 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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Society will always need good plumbers!


15 posted on 08/19/2008 6:59:07 AM PDT by pelicandriver
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Not everyone should go to college, as many Freepers have said.”

I have said that for years.
The teachers union and the school boards are directly responsible for this problem. They have systematically dismantled the vocational classes in our schools. Now, the people who might be filling these jobs are convinced they should never get their hands dirty and are entitled to a 6 figure salary because they “went to college”.
It has been a terrible lie.


17 posted on 08/19/2008 8:03:06 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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This is a great idea except for the fact that welding and pipefitting has long been difficult to get into. My inlaws are all pipefitters/welders and I know very well that you could not get into an apprentice program unless some relative in the trade and union brought you in. The building trades have been made unavailable or undesireable in recent years because of the high number of illegals contractors are hiring. I know young people who signed onto a number of jobs in order to get a start in a trade, only to be laid off a few weeks or months later. While they were filing out with their severance illegals speaking only spanish were filing in. In a number of cases they were told that their last assignments were to train the illegals who were taking their place. Clean up the crap, get the word out that these fields are open again and you might see more people applying.


18 posted on 08/19/2008 8:38:32 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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