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To: reaganaut1
Yeah, but these companies don't want to pay any money. I got an offer, after thirty years of industrial electrical maintenance experience, for $16/hour. They all want to pay less and less and want more skills.

They all say, "You can work all the overtime you want". Big deal. I don't want to work sixty hours a week. They want you to work forced overtime, too.

They all bitch and moan that they don't have any skilled workers but they won't institute apprenticeship programs. They want fully trained workers right off the bat. That's not possible. It takes years to understand all the ways to troubleshoot, wire and analyze electrical systems.

We had some guys that just came out of the military. They are not so great. They are good workers but they can't think. They are so used to doing one small job that they can't think around a problem that involves many integrated systems.

The art of troubleshooting, using logic, can't be taught overnight. It takes a while and the person has to be able to think rationally. We all know that isn't taught in today's society.

6 posted on 08/19/2008 5:24:30 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: raybbr
One thing I've never understood (and I'm not blaming them) is the unions' reticence to bring people into apprenticeship programs.

If I wanted to join the IBEW in Chicago, I'd need to be the Mayor's cousin's son. It's ironic that the very people we need to be bringing into these skilled-trade jobs aren't brought in because they don't have connections.

10 posted on 08/19/2008 5:29:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: raybbr

“The art of troubleshooting, using logic, can’t be taught overnight. It takes a while and the person has to be able to think rationally. We all know that isn’t taught in today’s society”
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Ain’t that the truth! If logical troubleshooting ability were common to most people we wouldn’t have the mess we have in Washington. The founding fathers had this kind of ability and they applied it to the creation of the constitution but we have, in our great wisdom, thrown their work away and gone with the absurd thinking of political correctness. What passes for thought these days makes me want to heave.


16 posted on 08/19/2008 7:35:31 AM PDT by RipSawyer (What's black and white and red all over? Barack Hussein Obama)
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