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To: allmendream

Actually, it would appear your aticle is just a tad one-sided. I did a little checking, and by what I’m reading, the Pope is pro-ID (which you call “stupid”), and thus your claim that your position is “indistinguishable from that of the Pope” is just flat-out wrong:

“Pope Benedict XVI has sacked his chief astronomer after a series of public clashes over the theory of evolution.

He has removed Father George Coyne from his position as director of the Vatican Observatory after the American Jesuit priest repeatedly contradicted the Holy See’s endorsement of “intelligent design” theory, which essentially backs the “Adam and Eve” theory of creation.

Intelligent design

Benedict favours intelligent design, which says God directs the process of evolution, over Charles Darwin’s original theory which holds that species evolve through the random, unplanned processes of genetic mutation and the survival of the fittest.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-401950/Pope-sacks-astronomer-evolution-debate.html

So tell me, now that you have read the above, does the Pope’s endorsement of ID mean he is “stupid”?


860 posted on 08/22/2008 1:47:42 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Benedict favours intelligent design, which says God directs the process of evolution

So, you are saying the ID'er is GOD? I thought ID meant that it could be space aliens.

864 posted on 08/22/2008 1:52:50 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: GodGunsGuts

You go first. If the Pope believes evolution to be true as he has stated (he was quoted accurately) has he picked the side of evil in this “spiritual war” your talking about?

Intelligent design essentially backs the Adam and Eve “theory” of creation? Who knew. I guess all those I.D. guys are a bunch of liars for saying they are not promoting creationism.

The Pope said he believes that Evolution is true, but that it cannot rule out God. This is not I.D.. It is the same thing I believe. No Science can “rule out” God; neither can they “rule in” God and still be Science.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19956961/

The pontiff, speaking as he was concluding his holiday in northern Italy, also said that while there is much scientific proof to support evolution, the theory could not exclude a role by God.

“They are presented as alternatives that exclude each other,” the pope said. “This clash is an absurdity because on one hand there is much scientific proof in favor of evolution, which appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such.”
Pope Benedict XVI


865 posted on 08/22/2008 1:54:48 PM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Benedict favours intelligent design, which says God directs the process of evolution ... So tell me, now that you have read the above, does the Pope’s endorsement of ID mean he is “stupid”?

I have no problem with a religious person stating that God directed evolution, however, since there is not proof it should be kept out of the science classes. Do you support the Pope's position?

866 posted on 08/22/2008 1:58:16 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: GodGunsGuts; allmendream
Your source on Benedict is a little outdated. From the same newspaper 9 months later:
he did not adopt a strictly scientific view of the origins if life, believing instead that God created life through evolution.

He said he "would not depend on faith alone to explain the whole picture".

As well as praising scientific progress, the Pope's views, published in a new book 'Schoepfung unt Evolution' (Creation and Evolution), did not endorse the creationist, or 'intelligent design' view of life's origins.


869 posted on 08/22/2008 2:06:50 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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