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To: GodGunsGuts

You go first. If the Pope believes evolution to be true as he has stated (he was quoted accurately) has he picked the side of evil in this “spiritual war” your talking about?

Intelligent design essentially backs the Adam and Eve “theory” of creation? Who knew. I guess all those I.D. guys are a bunch of liars for saying they are not promoting creationism.

The Pope said he believes that Evolution is true, but that it cannot rule out God. This is not I.D.. It is the same thing I believe. No Science can “rule out” God; neither can they “rule in” God and still be Science.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19956961/

The pontiff, speaking as he was concluding his holiday in northern Italy, also said that while there is much scientific proof to support evolution, the theory could not exclude a role by God.

“They are presented as alternatives that exclude each other,” the pope said. “This clash is an absurdity because on one hand there is much scientific proof in favor of evolution, which appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such.”
Pope Benedict XVI


865 posted on 08/22/2008 1:54:48 PM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: allmendream
Sorry, Allmendream, the Pope is not an evo, he's a proponent of ID, which allows for limited evolution, but maintains that life was originally frontloaded by an intelligently designer. That is a far cry from what you believe. Moreover, the Pope fired his chief astronomer for attacking ID, and now he's dismantling and moving the entire observatory his chief astronomer used to be in charge of to a disused convent down the road. If I didn't know any better, I'd say THE POPE IS CLEANING HOUSE.

==Intelligent design essentially backs the Adam and Eve “theory” of creation? Who knew. I guess all those I.D. guys are a bunch of liars for saying they are not promoting creationism.

Either you are ignorant or dishonest. Anyone who understands the ID movement knows better than to suggest that they believe in the “Adam and Eve theory of creation” (aka YEC). YECers are routinely banned from ID forums because they use the Bible as historical evidence for YEC. IDers have limited themselves to searching for evidence of design in nature, and don't allow God's Word to help guide their research. It just shows you know next to nothing about the growing ID movement you are always criticizing. If you're going to mouth off about ID, at least take the time to know what you're talking about. That way you won't look like a fool.

872 posted on 08/22/2008 2:31:31 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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